Survival Debate: 1911 or Glock

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The infamous “Colt” 1911 and the Glock pistols represent the epoch debate over two classic diametrically opposed handgun designs.  Like vanilla and chocolate ice cream there are diehard followers of each flavor as well as for each of these pistols.   One can argue this model is better than the other, but it is a debate that will never produce a resolution much like the classic 9mm vs .45 ACP debate.

1911 vs Glock: Head To Head

The Battle of the Semi-Autos

Everybody has their own personal preferences in nearly every aspect of life from cars to television shows to blue jeans to best hamburgers.  That is I suppose in America the “spice of life” they talk about, because freedom as brought us so many choices.  Truth is though there are many other choices than these two, but I chose these because I know them well, they are popular, proven designs that are readily available.   Either would make a good survival support firearm.

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From the perspective of the prepper, I constantly get inquiries about which heavy duty semi-auto pistol to choose for SHTF scenarios, Bug In and Out self-defense, property patrol and the whole nine yards as it were.   Pistols seem to dominate the discussion over wheel guns, but for me, those handguns are still a viable option for many.  However, the marketplace and many survival blog sites are replete with advice on selecting a semi-auto and for good reasons.  Therefore, newbies and veterans alike are swayed toward purchasing a semi-auto pistol for survival work.  I can argue all day until blue in the face why the semi-auto pistol is a top choice for self-defense, if and that is a big IF, the user is willing to officially learn how to use it, load it, shoot it, and maintain it.

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Don’t thrash me here for picking the .45 ACP caliber choice.  I know and fully appreciate that others will want and will learn the effective use other choices, primarily the 9mm or the .40 Cal or others.  I picked the .45 ACP again, because most of the inquiries I get are about a heavy hitting pistol.  You simply cannot argue against 230 grains unless you cannot hit with it.  Keep also in perspective that some shooters are simply not suited to the .45 ACP, but that is their choice to evaluate and decide upon.  Many may wish to use multiple choices in this regard.   While one prepper may own and use the Ford F-250 super duty truck, others prefer a Subaru or small SUV.  Again, these are the choices of freedom.

The Glock Profile

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The Glock pistol began manufacture in Austria in 1983 by Glock GmbH.  Today there is a Glock manufacturing facility in Smyrna, Ga which opened in 2009.   There have been several versions of the Glock pistols known as “Generations’ or Gen 2-3 and now the Gen-4 brought out in 2010.  Each version incorporated new upgrades, or design changes or so-called improvements.  The Gen-4’s main upgrade was options in the configuration of the grip.  Such “changes” are in the eyes of the beholder and user.  Many Gen-4 buyers have sold them going back to the Gen-3 versions.

The primary Glock chambered for the .45 ACP is their Model 21.  It is the full sized model with a 4.49 inch barrel.   There is a shorter, compact version, too, the Model 30.  The Model 21 weighs in at 29 ounces.  That is 1.8+ pounds.  It is a sizable pistol not fitting all hands well.  What made the Glock pistol design famous is their ubiquitous polymer frame.  The barrels are steel as is the slide and all internal springs.  The sights are fixed, though aftermarket sights offer other options such as a Tru-Glo night sight.  The Glock pistol is comprised of only 35 parts for reliability and simplicity.  This is why many law enforcement agencies use them.

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Glock pistols are double-action, meaning with a round in the chamber, the shooter has only to pull the trigger.  The firearm will fire, eject the spent cartridge and reload a fresh round from the magazine ready to be fired again.  Factory magazines can hold either 10 or 13 rounds.

When I work the gun shows in my area, I work for a certified Glock armorer company called GlockPro of Mississippi.  They sell only trigger kits, aftermarket sight kits, springs, do-dads, and official factory accessories.  They do all the parts change outs and fitting at the show while the customer walks around the show.  I see a lot of Glocks used by a lot of pistol owners.  Glock shooters don’t really criticize the pistol, but they seem to rush to us for a lighter trigger kit after just having bought a brand new pistol in the factory box.  They also favor one of the three sight enhancement kit versions we sell and install.  Night sights are a primary choice.

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Glocks shoot every time you pull the trigger, well for the most part.  They are very reliable guns if the shooter knows how to shoot it.  A strong grip is paramount in the pistol’s performance.  Limp-wristing this pistol will cause it to stovepipe.  Parts do break on the Glock and some come from the factory with “issues.”  I hear repeatedly that many Glock owners have returned their guns to the factory in Georgia for “adjustments.”  It can happen with anything.

If I am asked I will be honest.  I do not personally like the Glock.  I have owned them, but the slippery plastic grip simply does not work for me and I have a big mitt.  The grip angle and surface are just not to my personal liking.  For me, the Glock is just ugly.  It is functional, but not awe inspiring to look at, but again that is a personal choice and does not distract from the gun’s use.  If I bought another Glock (which I doubt) I would go with a 9mm.  The .40 Cal is a solution to a non-existent problem.  So is the SIG round in my opinion.

The Battlefield 1911

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If you want a good historical read on a handgun, look up the background of the original 1911 from conception until the current modern versions of today.  The classic 1911 pistol is likely the most prolifically copied handgun design of all time.  I suspect there are easily as many as 100+ manufacturers’ 1911 models being produced today.  The original refined 1911 model was designed for use as the primary sidearm for WWII though earlier models were produced and used earlier for military applications.  They were used mostly by officers, pilots, and higher ranking medical personnel.  Some line troops may have had access to them.  After the war they were widely used by returning troops and later by civilians in large numbers.

The current Colt and the many copies of the 1911/1991 versions are primarily chambered for the .45 ACP though they have been and are available in other calibers such as the 9mm and the .38 Super as well as the .22 rimfire mostly in conversion kits.  The basic 1911 is an all steel pistol, blued finish, bright or matte with other options including stainless now and the old Parkerized finish.  Many other custom materials, coatings and finishes are offered by manufacturers.  The 1911 comes with a standard 5-inch barrel and slide, 7-shot magazine, slide lock, left hand side slide safety lock, grip safety and wood, plastic, or synthetic grips panels.

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The 1911 is a single action pistol.  This means the slide has to be racked or “cocked” back to the locked position which also cocks the hammer.  Upon release of the slide by the slide release lever, the slide moves forward stripping a cartridge round out of the top of the magazine and chambering it.  This loads the pistol into firing ready.  This is all over simplified.  The pistol is then ready to be fired with a firm grip to actuate the grip safety if the side safety is off.  Pulling the trigger fires the round, cycles the slide back, recocking the hammer making it ready to be released again to strip another round.

At this point too, the pistol’s side safety can be put on and the hammer lowered or left in the “cocked and locked” condition.  Again familiarization with the 1911 action and sequence is necessary for safe and proficient operation.  It is easier to do and learn than to describe in writing.

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Summary Commentary

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As you can see, these two pistols are completely different designs primarily as either single or double action mechanisms.  Preppers will need to decide which system will work better or easier for them.  I naturally recommend that potential buyers check out both pistols thoroughly, handle them and then shoot them both before purchasing one or more.

For solo preppers, teams or tribes, I suggest picking one or the other and not to mix types for the entire group.  I strongly advocate standardization of pistols, calibers, magazines, holsters, cleaning gear, and other gear related to SHTF self-defensive, protective or offensive weapons.  If you select the .45 ACP as your heavy pistol choice, pick one of these two.

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Written by John J. Woods

John J. Woods, PhD, has been outdoor writing for over 35 years with over 3000 articles, and columns published on firearms, gun history, collecting, appraising, product reviews and hunting. Dr. Woods is currently the Vice President of Economic Development at a College in the Southern United States. Read his full interview here. Read more of John J.'s articles.

47 thoughts on “Survival Debate: 1911 or Glock”

  1. Thanks for the article write up & a informative read.
    I own a few colt 1911's series 70 & a glock gen 3 .
    Colt 1911 have been around for over 100 years now.
    My concern about Glocks is that will the Tupperware frame hold well past 100 years and function well is to be seen in do time.
    I'm just not sure.
    Anyways I'd be dead & long gone by then.
    As for having the same type of firearm system in your group or family members is something I totally agree, In your write up.
    In my family & group of buddy's we have gone with CZ firearms in 9mm all based on the CZ 75 platform.

  2. There are pros and cons to both weapons. I know that the overwhelming majority of those people who use Glocks swear by them as opposed to at them. Glock pistols have come to have a reputation for being both reliable and accurate. As well, the extra magazine capacity that Glocks have over a single stack 1911 magazine is also nice.

    As far as 1911s go, quality and accuracy can be somewhat variable depending on who made them. The best 1911s will do anything you reasonably need a handgun to do. The worst ones not so much.

    However, for me it comes down to having been trained on a 1911 initially. Also, I like the feel of the trigger pull on a 1911 a lot better than I do the trigger pull on a Glock. So when I go to spend my own hard earned money it's going to be for a 1911 variant. Other people's mileage will obviously vary. More power to them.

  3. Here again, I err on the side of availability during survival conditions. When comparing just these two guns, a 1911 variant will LIKELY be less available than a Glock in post-SHTF conditions, as they are used by fewer rank and file police officers and law enforcement agencies, and fewer are in circulation currently. As such, a replacement gun, or replacement parts, will be easier to obtain for Glock users, especially when considering that weapons manufacture may cease after the SHTF, depending on the severity.

    I believe that the overarching consideration for persons in a survival situation is that they have a gun and be able to use it to good effect. Period. The argument is not steel vs polymer frame, single action vs double action, or .45 vs 9mm. The argument is instead: can they use WHATEVER they have to good effect when the chips are down. Both the 1911 or Glock can kill bad guys or harvest game, just like an old Webley top-break revolver.

    All that said, I carry a Smith and Wesson M&P compact in 9mm and consider myself well-armed for the apocalypse.

    • I'm going to have to disagree with you on the potential availability of 1911's vs Glocks, at least as far as things go here in CONUS. I will grant that if one were to look at what is currently in use by the various police departments scattered across this nation that they would likely find more Glocks being used currently.

      But that overlooks the fact that police departments are not the only potential source of firearms in a SHTF situation. The model 1911 has pretty much been in continuous production in this country for 104 years. During most of that time it was considered the king of the hill as far as combat firearms go. Lord alone knows how many millions of them are squirreled away in the hands of civilian owners all across an entire continent. Thus if one were to try to trade for a firearm in a SHTF situation from the populace at large I would bet that 1911's would be more available than Glocks. Depending on the nature of just what went down, 1911's may end up being far more scroungeable than Glocks as one could potentially expect to find a 1911 darn near anywhere. And in terms of finding a firearm that had no paperwork, again a 1911 would be more likely to fill that bill. Somebody's grandfather may have filled out all the requisite forms when he bought the piece 60 years ago, but then having been passed down to the father and then the grandson there's no paperwork on it now.

      Granted that Glocks are popular now, and arguably deservedly so. But I seriously doubt the production totals for Glocks come anywhere near close to those for 1911's given the fact that a whole bunch of different companies have been making 1911's for a combined production run of over a century. Also 1911's were the service sidearm for WWI, WWII, Korea, Vietnam, and a host of other assorted conflicts. The ship I was on in the Navy still had 1911's when we went to the Persian Gulf for Desert Shield, Desert Storm and Desert Saber.

  4. You really should be looking a Glock and not for the reasons that most will think, and SIG makes a version too.
    You really need a pistol that you can convert to multiple calibers, a rifle too, as the choice of ammo may not always be the type you need. Most of these designs have already been made available and do not add that much weight

    I always see what is the best but true fully you have have to look at which will allow me the widest range of ammo for the lowest weight

    • Boo to you! Mine (Springfield Armory) has NEVER failed to fire in at least 8200 rounds that I have shot through it-and the magazines are less trouble than I have had with my Glock mags-and they drop right out too!

      • Springfield armory makes excellent 1911s however for every 1911 that works more don't, but if you want to spend money on a 1911 then do so, however glocks just about always work and I'd rather spend my time researching more important things like food and water than side arms since I know glocks work.

  5. My mind is leaning toward the person and not the pistol.

    If your not going to put in the time learn to shoot and care for the 1911 and understand that a 1911 can have FTF due to ammo or limp wristing then you may need to look at a Glock or a Sig.

    1911 encompasses a lot of different manufacturers so it is not just that simple if your not a pistolero you may not know the difference between the good ones or mediocre or plain bad.
    The 1911 is the most "SMITHED" pistol out there dependent on who did the work and the basic frame, slide and parts it could be anyones guess how good it could be or well it will shoot.

    I would take a Glock if I was not well experienced IMHO, and I don't care for them aesthetically / personally BUT they do work very very well.

  6. I like BOTH the 1911 in .45ACP and the Glock 21 SF in .45ACP. I would take either one or both in a serious firefight. However, when I worked in law enforcement in a densely populated area, I personally preferred capacity over "caliber" every single time. I am a fan of both the 9mm and the .45ACP, have seen both calibers work in "real life" in bad guys. First rule of gunfighting, is HAVE a gun.

    • Best bit of advise I've read yet. Thanks for the real life experience. Can't stand glocks but can't stand not having a side arm even more.

  7. Personally, I thought the first rule in gunfighting was being able to consistently hit your target; that's why I'll stick to my .357 mag. revolvers, works for me! If you bring a knife to a gun fight, then unless you're very skilled with a blade (and a bit lucky), you're not in a gun fight, you're probably dead, and someone has a new knife. As far as versatility, .357mag., .44mag., 9mm, .45ACP, etc., etc., all these 'common' calibers will probably all be available after SHTF and all will do the job when welded by a practiced, steady hand. Also, if only 'allowed' two firearms, I would carry a .22LR pistol or rifle (for small game hunting) and a large caliber (.308 or larger) rifle also for hunting both large game and two-legged trash disposal! Good Luck and keep plinking away!

  8. 1911 and 7 rounds is not worth the risk of jamming vs a revolver.
    Glock with 17 rounds IS WORTH the risk of jamming vs a revolver.
    This "assumes" the glock is a .45 and you agree that the risk of jamming is equal from 1911 to Glock.

      • But statistically speaking:
        – Your new mag of 10 rounds is a 42% improvement over your old mag's 7 rounds.
        – My 17 rounds is a 142% improvement over 7 rounds, and 70% improvement over 10.

        Going from 10 to 17 is two fold the benefit than what you got for going from 7 to 10.

        • But you must also factor in caliber differences that are negligible but still must be considered, therefore 10 rounds of .45 let's say 185 grain so 10 X 185
          =1850 grains of lead downrange.

          now 9mm in let's say 124 grain with a 17 round magazine is 124 X 17 = 2108 grains of lead downrange.

          plus a 1911 is not designed to be made on an assembly line they are designed to be made by craftsmen by hand piece by piece. Like the 1911s in world war two that were extremely reliable.

          And let's not forget that right after John Browning invented the 1911 he created the high capacity 9mm Browning high power

          The glock 17 (and all models after that) were designed to be mass produced and still remain a reliable tool (don't forget that glock wasn't a gunsmith he was a tool maker so a glock is a tool that shoots bullets not a weapon but it is a potentially dangerous tool)

          1911s only advantage is that they are pretty guns IMHO.

          The risk of jamming is definitely not the same just try to put 3000 rounds though a 1911 then do the same with a glock and see

          I am unfortunately too young to carry other than whilst hunting which sucks!

          But I still have gathered this information over time to show that the glock is superior to the 1911.

          • Very good points.
            My first post did say the Glock was a .45. God save us from the "knock down power" arguments. Those are worse than 1911 vs Glock!

  9. I feel like an outsider looking in. Don't own any Glocks, but shot a 19 today, it's OK. It would do the job. I do have one 1911, S&W, shoots great. I am hung up on the sexy lines of my Beretta's, call me shallow. Took my daughter out today with Ruger 22's, I really wish Ruger would make a double stack 20 or 30 rd unit, it would be love at first sight.

    Doc I love your comment on 40 cal.

    If I had to vote or choose….Ugly Glock with its higher capacity mags. Cheaper to shoot, lighter weight.

  10. I OWN BOTH 1911's and Glocks. The Glocks are much more reliable for the general population IMHO. I've had failures to feed on my 1911's at times, although my Kimber CDP has never had any sort of a problem, but many 1911's do have reliability problems at times.

  11. A $4000 1911 is unacceptable. This is the 21st Century. Why is perfection not the norm?

    I get the historical implications, but trusting a 100+year old gun design out of nostalgia is cute with toys, but downright dangerous with firearms. There is no way I would let my son hunt with 100 year old bolt design. That would frighten me. with every movement. So carrying a century old action in a handgun is, well, downright scary.

  12. I have only tried the Glock so I can’t really put my opinion in here.

    I suppose that the right one would be the one that is easiest to find bullets for.

  13. Hmmmmm, interesting!
    I competed in over 40 I.D.P.A, I.P.S.I.C., and other sanctioned tactical shooting matches over a 4 1/2 year period. I started with 2 1911s. I really like 1911s. I have never liked Glocks. By the end of year one, I was never placing well with my scores against the other shooters. Part of the problem was that it took me a while to learn how to tune my 1911s for near total reliability. While I was struggling to advance from "Marksman", to "Sharp Shooter", I noticed that most of the other competitors were using Glocks. Half out of frustration, I bought my first Glock, and began competing with it. Almost reluctantly, I had to admit that the Glock just performed better. By the beginning of year two, I went and purchased a new Glock 21 to use in competition. I never looked back from there. I burned though about 1,500 rounds of .45 ACP a season. I fired over 4,000 rounds of mostly Wolf Ammo through the gun. I experienced exactly 3 malfunctions. Two were caused by the primers being set two deeply in the cases. The third, was a primer failure, which was easy to clear by simply racking the slide. I tell you this.,,,,, If I'm out, and about in the world, and there is any real sense that there is a real possibility that I may need to defend my self using deadly force, I carry one of my Glocks. And odd to report, carrying a Glock is some different, than packing my 1911. There is nothing John Wayne about carrying the Glock. The Glock is nothing more, than a hand tool for self defense. I clip in onto my belt, as part of the normal process of getting ready to go out. Until I return home, I never really think of it again. In this sense it is very much an "every day carry" item for me. And maybe, just maybe, that's the way it should be. Remember, your self defense, firearm is like the parachute, worn by a fighter pilot. You pray to God that you will never be forced to use it to save your life. But, if you do, it has to work perfectly, or your dead.
    Hot that this helps!

    • Lou;
      You have more experience than many people who will read and comment here. As such, I think your experience and expertise demands respect.
      For me, the first handgun I ever learned to shoot (in the A.F.) was a 1911. First handgun I ever bought was a COMPACT (3" barrel" used Kimber) 1911 – JAM-O-MATTIC! Loved the trigger nonetheless, and when it worked, it was FUN to shoot those big, fat 230 grain .45ACP rounds! I hated Glocks at first, due to their appearance and "mushy" triggers compared to a 1911. That is, until a friend showed me that Glock triggers can be replaced/modified to be as "crisp" as a 1911's! Glocks' simplicity of operation and maintenance, reliability, and capacity is ABSOLUTELY superior to ALL 1911s. I bought another 3" Kimber 1911 later, and carry it occasionally. It is FUN to shoot and simply BEAUTIFUL (and this one NEVER jams on me unless it gets really dirty), but my G19 (with custom trigger and TruGlo TFO sights) has never jammed, even after firing a COUPLE THOUSAND ROUNDS concurrently (except with 5 bad rounds from a bad batch), so it has become my EDC choice. I have learned to appreciate its design and "aesthetics" as well. Whatever your preference, you MUST learn to carry it comfortably, to draw and shoot it SKILLFULLY, and also how to deal with malfunctions and as well as HOW TO MAINTAIN IT! With those skills established, your preferred platform will serve you well.

  14. I own both, glock 21 & 1911
    the glock is lighter and seems easier to carry on the hip (loaded) than the 1911.
    the 1911 is faster to shoot "well" ( at least for me) and 1911 seems to shoot reloads better than glock
    ( as far as I have seen)

    the 1911 needs a lot of replacement parts to be fitted by a gunsmith or trained operator

    the Glock is modular, in that parts are just swapped out ( plug & play)
    this is the biggest advantage I see in glock. if you have two compatible glocks and
    a collection of replacement parts you are good for the long hall.

  15. Quote:You really need a pistol that you can convert to multiple calibers, a rifle too, as the choice of ammo may not always be the type you need.

    I have seen a few shooters do this in matches,30% of the time they seem to come with at least one component
    that is incorrect ( wrong mags, wrong barrel, wrong ammo – you name it!)

    in glocks LEO & military are dropping .40 and going with 9mm
    so you have 9mm or .45

  16. outside of the USA, this is not even a discussion, for example in Australia, over 150,000 cops carry Glock 40s cal, no one and I mean no one uses 1911s, except for those in shooting clubs. so in a SHTF event the use will be only of Glocks. Even in NZ the cops carry Glock 40 cal , so thats another 17,000 plus cops, then there is Germany, Britain and all of Europe all Glocks, only in the USA will this arguement happen. fun ? sure , but pointless for those living outside of the US.

    • First off,,, Glock discounts the heck out of their guns to make them more appealing to LEO purchasing agents.
      And,,, is not Australia the country that rounded up pretty much all the personally owned firearms from its' citizens and destroyed them? Its kind of difficult to exercise any individual choice after all the guns are taken out of circulation!
      Again lets also lets look at Germany, Britain, and really most of Europe. Pretty much the same situation as far as private ownership of arms. And here again Glocks mass marketing and deep discounts to LEOs adds to their proliferation. Glocks are a cheep to build gun that enables them to be heavily discounted when sold in quantity.
      Then, the individual purchaser makes it up to Glocks bottom line by paying out a higher profit margin on singular sales here in the USA. Sorry but in my book, mass marketing does not necessarily signify a quality product.
      As I said in another feedback, If Glocks are that great why doesn't the US Military and Federal Law Enforcement use them?

    • In Austrailia few can own guns period, which sucks. Police stations don't buy glocks because they are the best guns. They are cheap, and easy to fix, and work reasonably well. Springfield XD's, M&P, Sig, HK, Colt, Glock, just buy a gun from a major manufacture and train with it. You want to know what to go with? Don't ask cops! My buddy works on the McKinney swat team and he would tell you that not all cops are gun guys. Go to a reputable tactical training center and ask the guys what they think? Take a class, train, train, train… Or you'll be the first to die if it hits the fan, or maybe the next to die. I think the world is better with you in it. Train.

  17. The Argument of which is "better" the 1911 or Glock, is like asking which is Better: Ford, Chevy, Dodge, Toyota, Mazda, Etc.. To me it is all "Personal Preference"! With regards to 1911's having problems, yes there are 1911's out there that you will find where you will have all kinds of problems with, but then there are those 1911's that work Flawlessly!! And the same thing can be said for the Glock! You may find a Glock that has all kinds of problems with it. and then you find a Glock that works Flawlessly!

  18. My personal choice is the Glock. In Recon we had many old 1911s that past LTI but couldn't hold a group. The SOC, long slide 1911s were a dream to shoot but a pain to clean. The 1911s exposed hammer and magazine safety are both features I choose to avoid in my line of work. With the Glock I can count my rounds and change mags with one in the chamber but, if a bad guy rounds a corner before I get the new mag in I can still fire.
    The only problem I've run into with the Glock is it jams with reloads… The stretch on the brass doesn't fit the tolerances. Not as many jams with my older S&W.
    Bottom line is I will carry the Glock with factory, high velocity, hollow points until something better comes along.

  19. Once again this debate raises its ugly head.
    I have a extensive collection of pistols and revolvers manufactured by just about all the arms companies.
    All,,,, except for Glock and I assure you that there will never be one in my gun safe.
    Sorry,,, but in my thinking they are just a poor, cheep, substitute for a quality handgun.
    They are very much prone to accidental discharges and jams. And,,, I firmly believe they are a major contributing factor to the rash of recent so called accidental police shootings. The police use them because they are a cheep buy!
    If Glocks are really that great, why are they not the issue gun that the various Federal Law Enforcement Agencies and the Military use instead of the likes of Berettas and Sigs.
    Sorry folks,,, you might find plastic guns in my grand kids toy boxes but not in my gun safe.

  20. As to the Glock polimer grip being slick, a Tuff 1 grip sleeve makes a Glock feel like a different pistol without adding any noticeable girth. I have them on all six of my Glocks and on my ARs.

  21. Well, I come from a time where the Browning Hi Power was the ultimate 9mm pistol—so I carried one (C&L) for 12-13 years as part of my job (manager at gun store)—of course there were 1911s—if yours worked (definitely not a sure thing). Then came the Glock 17—didn't like it when it came out and still don't own any Glocks to this day—but it worked! For many folks, this was the first semi-auto pistol that REALLY worked. Personally, I've settled on the HK P2000 9mm DA/SA pistol as my choice—nice size—low weight—10 or 13 rds depending on where you live—great comfortable grip—100% reliability—etc. Add a smaller P2000sk as a second pistol and you've got it made. Just my two cents worth…

    • [HK P2K]… and the ultra handy, dandy decocker button right next to the hammer… no more sticking other thumb between hammer and frame or grasping hammer with other thumb and index to attempt a hot "in the field" decock. In any case, always point weapon in safe direction.

  22. While I really like my 1911 if the survivor situation were to arise I would have to take my Glock 22 or 23(.40 cal) with a 9mm conversion barrel to extend my possibility of finding ammo, and magazines. With police and military s all over the world use glocks extra parts and mags would be much easier to come by without a solid supply chain. I do like the trigger on 1911's much better and the softer shooting of the heavier weapon, but if there could be only one, I think the Glock would be my choice.

  23. I would like to make one correction to the article. The correction is in regard to the statement, "At this point too, the pistol’s side safety can be put on and the hammer lowered or left in the “cocked and locked” condition. "

    Once the thumb safety is in the "Safe" position, the hammer cannot be lowered. If the hammer is to be lowered to "Condition 2" (round chambered) or "Condition 3" (round not chambered), it is advisable to; (1.) Point the firearm in a safe direction, (2.) Hold the hammer with the thumb and forefinger of the support hand to control the hammer fall as you pull the trigger. (3.) Pull the trigger while slowly letting the hammer fall forward with the thumb and forefinger of the support hand.

  24. Let's be honest, it's a 100+ year old design (1911), intended by John Browning to fire a powerful round (at least one time) after being slogged through the muddy fields of Europe or ground into the gritty beaches of the Pacific. That was his gift to our troops – at least one chance to survive….. Today, it takes at least $2k (or more) of custom pistolsmithing (DW, LB, WC, EB, NH, and others) to match the "out of the box" accuracy, consistency, and durability of later, designs (and that is just how it is). Usual upgrades are a) various ramped barrel designs to improve feeding of high tech ammo [that is, anything beyond hardball], b) double stack frame to improve capacity, c) longer slide/barrel, say 6", to absorb recoil/reduce muzzle flip and increase sight radius/accuracy, d) use of stainless steel to improve durability, and e) hand filing/fitting of all those steel parts. And that doesn't include the cost of presentation or collector grade setups (for those, just keep adding more money [usually in $2k increments]). For those that have everything else taken care of, I say "back up the truck" and load up every 1911 you can find.


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