Survival Debate: Dog or No Dog

Deciding whether or not to take your dog in a survival situation is a more difficult question than choosing between types of gear. For animal loving pet owners it’s a no-brainer. Others might see dogs an an unnecessary risk and use of supplies.

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Survival DogsPro:

  • Excellent Early Warning Security
  • Close Quarters Fighting Advantage
  • Threat Deterrent
  • Animal Tracking
  • Companionship

Con:

  • Noise can be a security risk
  • Extra Food
  • Extra Water
  • Some Terrain is Difficult

No Dog

Survival DogsPro:

  • Move Faster in some Situations
  • No unnecessary noises
  • No extra food or water required

Con:

  • Lonliness
  • No warning for unheard/unseen risks

What Else?

Can you tell my list is a little slanted towards the pro-Dog side? Leave a comment and tell us what other good reasons you have for having or not having a dog in a survival situation.  Also see our Bug Out Bag for dogs – I spray painted mine and it turned out great.

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204 thoughts on “Survival Debate: Dog or No Dog”

  1. It depends on the dog – no ankle bitters. Needs to be a "working breed". Man has had canines as companions and working helpers for thousands of years – but they weren't "cock-a-poos" and "shitzus". The benefits of a good working dog, will far out weigh the negatives.

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    • Steve,

      At the risk of alienating some readers I have to say I'm not a big fan of small dogs and toy breeds either. Thought they will probably still be able to warn you early if someone/something is around they certainly won't help much in a fight.

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    • Wouldn’t survive the constant terrain struggle or any crazy weather, its a fact that with out humans almost 80 percent of modern dog breeds would not survive on their own. Even strong dogs like pitbulls, american bulldogs and some other short haired molosser breeds would not survive winter.

      An attacker can use your own gun on you, but he can never use your own dog on you. A well trained guard dog with its own survival skills, will be essential.

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      • I doent belive the fact of 80% of breeds being unable to survive alone means a lot in this situation, the dog isn’t alone, and depending on any individual dogs exposure of paws to the elements will prove if it can travel the terrain, but even a rabbit knows to walk in a dirrection of least resistence, except for maybe a silly fun loving breed like a golden retriever or a rotwieler, but who knows dogs have individual characters not limited by a breeds generalization

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    • well, one thing is for sure… toy dogs are useless in a survival situation for anything but companionship. But they take up space and supplies and most people with them will make poor decisions that could get themselves killed trying to save their toy pet and not see that it is drawing attention to you and your group. I would have to eliminate a toy pet if it was in our group because of that. Other dogs are vital to your survival depending on how smart they are and I think they add much more pro's to your surviving.

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    • Yes, but even some "working" dogs have their personalities. it depends on what type of barker the dog is, incessant barking at every leave blowing is not a good thing if the plan is to be un-discovered. I have a strong, hunting instinctive Siberian Husky-German shepherd cross. She has such nervous energy (even charging thunderstorms), I often wonder if I could bring her with me in a survival situation.

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      • I wouldn’t say little dogs are useless, I would definitley bring my 11 pound yorkie. She is very good at catching vermin, which I encourage her to do on a regular basis to hone those predatory instincts, so she could sustain herself no problem; she only eats about 1/2 cup of food per day anyway. She is also in great shape, 3-4 mile trail runs are routine; and she is an excellent swimmer and will retrieve anything that’s not too big in the water. She barks when I need her to and will shut up on command.

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    • Jack Russell, best survival situation dog??? (Europe only)

      My observations on my Jacks.

      Small dogs are better guard dogs than big dogs. Not better attack dogs, but better at keeping the ears open and sounding the alarm.

      They eat less than big dogs. The guts of a rabbit or dead rat will keep them going a good while. They find their own water when needed.

      POTENTIALLY: They are less likely to be shot by a burglar who "may" not see them as a threat and "may" create a moral dilemma in the mind of an intruder. They are very quick, and don't square off to people because of that low fear factor, they seem to bark and run around a lot when they sense something. This may disorient an intruder giving you valuable seconds. In a collapse, big dogs might be shot on sight, bigger targets. Small dog will sound the alarm, and probably live to tell the tale. I'm not sure of this, of course.

      They kill rats, mice, snakes (euro snakes) etc. They can feed themselves if needed. And will keep the vermin population down that will increase with a collapse scenario. They stay near their owners, especially at night. If trained to sleep at the bottom of the bed, and you have a cat flap or something, they'll patrol outside all night. They don't mind height, and if you put planks against the walls etc they will patrol barn rafters and even roofs.

      They will protect livestock from European predators. They even chase birds flying over for some reason, this is good when the hawks come after the chickens. They can get through gates and fences, protecting animals without you having to open up for them at night. They were made for Foxes.

      They are the smallest of the hunting dogs. They will dig anything out of a hole, go to ground, and will guard for days till it comes out.

      They are very territorial. They smell better than they hear, and hear better than see. At night, what you might need is smell, they will sense stuff hundreds of metres away. Smell wakes them up like sound wakes us up. Both our Jacks jump up during the night at the same time to want to go out for no noticeable reason. But when we get outside the other animals are restless.

      They don't give a crap about size, they'll always have a go with other animals and they don't give up easily. Our jacks tag team everything. They've been stitched up twice, mainly confronting wild pigs.

      Yes, they will sod off once in a while. But if you leave them outside off the chain, and let them go around as they please, they don't do it really. Ours run off after being at the kennels for a week, or when my wife is away. About twice a year, but they come back. They can travel miles.

      They have an understanding akin to that of a four year old, apparently. They understand stuff like, I'll be back, and find mummy really well etc.

      They usually live 15+ years. Small dogs live longer than big dogs. Big dogs, and giant breeds like mountain dogs and bull mastiffs have about half the lifespan of a small dog.

      As the list says, Pound for pound, the Jack Russell is the toughest dog on this list of Survival Dogs, and if you can't feed your dog, or it can't feed itself, it's not a good situation to be in. Easy to check for ticks. Very few health complaints.

      CONS
      They get caught in traps. They run towards fireworks. They don't like the cold for long periods. Deep snow is a problem, but very amusing to watch. It's very hard to shut them up once they start up. Don't know how they'd fare against a real snakes like other countries have. The snakes ours catch are non poisonous and they rip them to shreds. They are pretty quick though, and being quick and the low fear factor could keen them alive? The fear factor I think is with humans mainly, they run around barking and growling but do not engage, maybe that is a good thing? Perhaps you need a big one and a small one.

      (sorry for posting twice)

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    • i wouldn't be in the bush without my dog…. at any time, but especially in a crisis situation… and yes Ste(ve she or he would be a a mutt.. a good working dog

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    • agreed! a good working dog can even be trained to carry his own gear, can provide extra warmth in cold weather situations, and any dog can be trained from a young age to not bark, so noise isn't really even a real consideration, since that's something we should be training out of our dogs anyway.

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    • Consider one of the primitive breeds. Those are breeds with a wild streak in their makeup, including the character, independent, born survivalists, but very serviceable, if you are to survive in a wild place. If you keep some livestock, it would be one of livestock protection dogs. If you in a forested country, a hunting Laika would tree many kinds of game for you, including bear. If you are in desert or prairie plains, a Saluki would be a good choice for catching Jack rabbits.

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  2. I say bring the dog. I see it as a little insurance… if something goes bump in the night, Fido will be there to help you check it out. When you have no one left to talk to, you have Fido to talk to… and in the event that you run out of food… you can eat the dog. Come on… he's your best friend… he wouldn't want you to be hungry.

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  3. A dog can also help you track and hunt for food. Nothing like a dog to corner some game for you until you catch up with him

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  4. Many dogs will not be of much help in a combat scenario unless they are trained as attack dogs. There is a big difference between an attack dog and a guard dog. Frankly, in a survival situation, I would rather have a woods-savvy guard dog than a trained attack K9.

    +2 for the "working dog" comment… if it's not a working dog it's a chew toy for a working dog.

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    • I had a medium sized dog who was neither a guard dog nor a tactical (trained) dog and I never thought he'd be much help in a fight (he's too friendly to EVERYBODY) until I saw him jump a 7 foot fence and jump on a guy behind our house who had attacked me, the guy had very easily had me on the ground and almost subdued and if it wasn't for the dog it would not have ended well for me.

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  5. I would go for a working dog as well. I have been looking at getting a rottweiler as I miss my last one a great deal, she used to camp, hike with me often and carried some of her own supplies in one of those canine packs. She was tough and capable of handling inclimate weather (I used to live in Nova Scotia), no yappy dogs though.

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    • Ah! You know, I just saw the article on "Survival Flash Drives" right after reading a few survival mom posts, that expressed concerns about EMPs.

      I was going to suggest Faraday cages! I built one for physics class last year. It was cardboard, hot glue and aluminum foil. I kept marshmallows and other goodies safe in a microwave (they didn't even get hot) and I tested it before taking it to class by placing my cell phone in the box and calling myself. My cell phone didn't have a signal in it.

      The teacher made a quick and fairly successful one as well using those aluminum mesh pencil holders. We did not test it with a cell phone though.

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  6. For me, taking dogs is a non-issue. If I’m bugging out they’re coming with me. But I disagree with “working dogs”, sounds a lot like like the 9mm vs .45cal debate. I’m sure only real men bring “working dogs” and carry .45s. It depends on your situation, my dogs are trained as watch dogs. I’d much rather bring a watch dog that eats 1 cup of food a day than one that eats 1lb a day. Plus they’re better at flushing small game.

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    • While I can see the pro of having a small dog, if its well trained, the majority of small dog breeds no matter how well trained will not survive extreme weather, or even the constant terrain struggle.
      Also keep in mind the prey factor. Up here in canada if you have a small dog with out a big bite grip, and no matter how determined and trained your small dog is it would fall prey to cyotes, wolves,bears, even the raccoons here have been known for killing small dogs.

      As for food, a large breed dog if working every day will eat up to 4- 4.5 cups of food ( assuming its not a greatdane lol), but for the most part dog food canned and dried is almost 60 percent more expensive than our food, and your dog is better off eating meat and rice like you. dog food is full of corn and by product filler. Your dog would actually eat less, if you fed it canned human meats, with a bit of rice and some sort of veggie like a carrot. Also keep in mind a dog with out door survival skills will be able to hunt small game for itself, squirrels, rabbits, mice to help suppliment its diet.

      I have a pitbull-lab cross, and a malinois-am.bulldog cross. Both medium sized dogs able to combat the cold, and are well trained guard dogs. They stick close whether in the car or on horseback, and as an example of 3 medium dogs strenghth, one day I witnessed my two dogs and a farm dog take down a deer (we have overpopulation in our area) when they were having their free time. 100 percent I am brining my dogs, along with a well trained horse for all the places a car can’t get me.

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    • Honestly, if you're looking at caloric consumption (which, let's face it, in a real survival situation, is currency up there with h2o access, a Nordic type breed is up your alley. High "prey drive" in that they will stalk and kill small animals, a decent sized territorial instinct, and a comparably low intake per pound of work (call it do, as in HP) ratio. Check out reading on malamute, husky, etc. canines. PS: .45 is boo my, 9mm is sweet, .40 is just right

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  7. In the practical sense, dogs will also be good for body warmth. Who hasn't felt the "portable heater" affect from a dog who falls asleep either on your feet or close to your body. But my favorite reason for having a dog is what I call "simple joy". To watch a dog run, wholeheartedly, for the simple joy it creates in their hearts. To see a frisky moment, that you didn't see coming, that makes you laugh with abandonment. From a psychological standpoint, these reminders of simple joys will be necessary in a devastated world.

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  8. I have a male and a female Rhodesian Ridgeback. Very alert and have great situational awareness. I have held back on releasing them on rabbits and squirrels but I have no doubt they could catch them. If someone is considering a breed I would suggest a working breed but they don’t have to be a large dog. Maybe a border collie for those who prefer a smaller dog.

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  9. Personally I think the benefits of having a dog greatly outweigh the risks involved in caring for one. Even small dogs and especially ones like a Jack Russell who instinctively hunt. Dogs that tend to bark at anything that moves or have high anxiety (found in small dogs and working breeds who do not get enough stimulation) could be quite a hindrance but there's lots of situations where they'd still be more of a use than a burden. If you are in a situation where stealth could save your life, I'd hate to be dragging along a dog with high anxiety but for me, I say have the dog(s).

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    • i have to agree with you my huskey is great for around the camp but for being 5 years old i still have trouble keeping her quiet when things move and jump her. She is my baby girl.

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    • i agree with the jack russel comment. i had one when i was younger (he died a bit ago) and i never taught him to hunt. barely taught him to fetch. but hed always bring me animals he killed (or in an unfortunate case almost killed.). they are natural small game hunters on there own. hell the little bugger brought me a coral snake once. and didnt get bitten. we brought him to the vet to check. but terriers for the most part are wonderful dogs to bring with you.

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  10. As I am an avid bird hunter, I would opt to have my dogs with me. After seeing a dog point a covey of Hungarian partridge at 70 yards and find dead pheasants buried in two feet of snow. A good hunting dog could feed you and himself very easily.

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  11. So it sounds like everyone is pro-dog. That is interesting because I would think that there would be a few nay sayers. As for me, I am on the fence with this one. Personally I could take one or leave one. I have a jack russel who is a hell of a small game hunter and she can definitely cover some ground and live off of almost nothing. She is definitely not a "tacticool" german shepherd, but she is no ankle bitter. That would not be her purpose though. She would fill the purpose of early warning and hunting. Just my $0.02

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    • I personally generally dislike dogs and judge them more on a case by case basis. The reason for this is that most dogs seem to be poorly trained (if at all) and bouncing off the walls which tends to annoy me. For some examples one friend had a beagle who would continuously paw you until you pet him and no matter how much you pet him he would continue to do it, another had a lab that would always run after you attacking your feet. My concern about having a dog would mostly be a stealth issue, I wouldn't want it giving away my position or scaring away game.

      That being said there are dogs I like. The same friend with the beagle had a rottweiler that was probably my favorite dog that I've ever met but he was also well trained. He was a trained attack dog, trained to attack anyone who went after my friend or his dad but despite this was a very friendly and calm dog as long as you didn't threaten the people he protected. So I could certainly see the advantage of having a dog and I would say as long as the dog was well trained, obedient and useful I'd definitely take it with me. So really it all depends on the dog.

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  12. Max, my Border Collie, will be with me where ever I go. He is a working dog (sheep) that hates coyotes, will try to herd deer and elk, is a constant companion and ever alert.

    It would be nice to know that I could sleep at night knowing that he is on watch.

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  13. i would have to say Dog cause i could not think about leaving my family without her she loves my kids and would die to protect them i could not ask for a better protecter wile i am away. if i even leave my home and she is inside she checks on my boys atleast every half hour. same with my wife she keeps her eyes on her as well. and to think my yougest son rides her from one end of my house to the other every morning to use the head then he rides her back to bed its great.

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  14. Excellent point emerald. I sort of mentioned that in the article with companionship, but your point about the positive psychological effects in such a grey and depressing time is a good one.

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  15. Andrew,

    I've always liked border collies. They are one of the smartest breeds in the world.

    I googled Rhodesian Ridgeback because I didn't immediately know what they looked like and the first result is from wikipedia saying:

    "The Rhodesian Ridgeback is a dog breed developed in Southern Africa where it was used (amongst other things) to hunt big lions."

    Hhaha sounds like you have a good hunting companion

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  16. mbcollins,

    You're right I am actually surprised at the number of readers who commented that they already have a dog and will be taking the along.

    I guess being outdoorsy survival people really lends itself to being a dog owner.

    If my Golden Retriever wasn't getting so on in years (14 now) she would definitely go with me anywhere.

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  17. Pre-historic man domesticated dogs before they domesticated cows. Clearly, they recognized the benefits dogs can provide, and if a better comparison to survival situations today can be found than ancient man's everyday life, I don't know what it is.
    Hunting, scavenging, protection from predators, and the psychological impact of a loyal companion are all worth sharing food with a dog. By the way, they will drink out of puddles if necessary so unless you're in an arid region, it presents little of a problem.

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    • The best survival tool in existance is your brain. Train it, read some military survival books-the government spent millions of dollars to compile that info…use it. You really dont have to keep all this stuff on hand, besides, can you protect all of that from roaming bandits who would kill you and your family for less than a candy bar? Think smart, you dont need half of wal-mart to survive.

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    • I agree psychological impact of a dog will help benefit you and most or all in your group from one time to another. Also if you kill some game they'll eat the scraps and gnaw at the left over bones an probably enjoy it better than their old kibbles. They call deer ditch rats where I live so I'm pretty confident that my dog would be more than please with some venison.

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  18. Definitely take the dog. As mentioned abofe, a dog can carry its own food and water, and should be able to go anywhere that a human on foot with a pack can go. Breed ideally should be taken into consideration. Terriers Would be better for hunting small game, but might be a tactical disadvantage with their personality traits. Brachycephalic breeds(squashed face) would not be as good at getting ahold of their target. In general, any dog between 25 and 100 lbs. should be bi enough to provide protection but not be prone to hip issues that would make walking difficult. Mutts are also less prone to health issues. Lastly, good training is a must!

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    • zschell,

      yea hip issues is a big one to think about for large pure bred dogs. My golden has it pretty bad now and she has trouble getting up and down.

      I should have mentioned training in the actually article (maybe as a con because it takes a lot of time?) There will be a huge difference between taking a well trained dog out with you, and an untrained house pet.

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      • There is nothing that makes mutts safe from genetic flaws. Just as they carry genes from their parents for color, size, and temperament, they are just as likely to suffer genetic flaws as any other pure bred dog. At least with a pure bred dog, you know what genetic traits you may expect. This is an old myth.

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        • It's definitely not a myth. If a bad gene tends to lurk in say dalmations, and both of your parents are dalmations, then you are more likely to inherit the problem.
          The reason is that most bad genetic things are recessive. Meaning that if you have one good copy from a parent and one bad copy. You're ok. If you have bad ones from both, your screwed.

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  19. Another vote for the dogs. As has been said above, pick a working breed. I a female Malinois and male Shepherd / Retriever mix. Both are great dogs and members of the family. They each have different skill sets and motivations. They are a great deterrent from the unwanted. All you really need are their flea / tick meds and their food. In a pinch they can share our food.

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    • These are pistol not shotgun but I thought they were kind of funny. I forget what movie it was (maybe Doomsday) this girl is running and firing pistols (one in each hand), to reload she throws the magazines up in the air (gotta love hollywood). Another is at the end of Zombieland when Woody Harrelson's character is fighting off the zombies (again a pistol in each hand) and stands up a bunch of magazines and to reload brings the guns down on them, this one I guess is plausible (I've only ever fired a shotgun so I don't really know) but would still be difficult to get the guns in exactly the right place to load the magazine rather than just knocking it over.

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  20. If you have a dog and it's still alive when God knows what happens, you should try and take it with you, if only for the warmth and comfort a dog can provide. I have a lab-greyhound mix that could probably chase down any animal she comes across and acts downright fearsome if she finds an intruder, but is often quiet and eats little due to her off metabolism. If you need a dog to be quiet in a disaster sitch, you could probably muzzle it with any cloth you have on hand.

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    • I’m in the market for a dog, and have been trying to decide between a lab and a greyhound. I never even considered a mix! This could be the answer to my prayers, ha. I grew up with a big goofy black lab who was as docile as anything, yet he would go nuts when any stranger got within a 50yd radius of me. Definitely missing that big guy 🙁

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  21. Lab – Greyhound mix = I'm guessing a really big and really sweet dog that would protect you to the death.

    I'd hate to have to muzzle my dog, but if that's what it takes. Even with lots of quality training sometimes dogs just refuse to be quiet.

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    • Yeah, she is.

      Since everyone's pretty much onboard with Taking dogs with them in a crisis I'd like to provide another question: What about cats? A good mouser would be good to keep rodents out of food storages, not to mention providing the food bonus of said animals, but would it be worth it?

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  22. Food – get you some dehydrated food (search for The Honest Kitchen), it packs down to 1/10 the size of kibble, has a longer shelf life, and retains it's nutrition much longer than the others (plus it is much higher in nutrition to begin with!).

    Breed- Dogs are my business, and I've seen breeds that most would pick as their ultimate survival dogs, but would crap when the shinola hit the fan! I've seen little ankle biters who would knock the black off a Rottweiler. Odds are you aren't going to pick your dog as a pet based on the notion of survival. You are going to pick what you like. Like a few others said prior, train your dog to be hardy out in nature and you will be doing it a huge favor should THAT time come. My 6lb Yorkie has no problem hanging with my Belgian Malinois on 6-8 mile hilly trail hikes. We raised her to be hardy and to obey off leash.

    Training – Sound socialization and off-leash training should be a priority for all dog owners, regardless of the DEFCON level! Your good ole hunting dog is worthless to you if it tears off after birds when off-leash and won't respond to your commands, and that electric collar you've relied on for hunting birds in the field has an extremely limited battery life when it comes to weeks or months on the go. A properly socialized dog is not going to bark at every little thing or take off in fear at lightning strikes or trash cans getting knocked over. A well-balanced dog will work as a team to protect it's turf, and if you trained it right, will look to you as its Leader to decide if the person approaching is a threat before just going ape-sh!t.

    I'm all for taking my dogs with me should THAT time come. I couldn't leave them! They can eat stuff we can't, they have 4 times better hearing than we do, which makes those lonely nights a little less stressful, and most can help chase down rabbits, squirrels, and even some birds (given they have prey drive). However, if my dogs were not able to make any technical journey then I would reevaluate the big picture before deciding to drag them through something that would be detrimental to everyone. I'm preying THAT day doesn't come.

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    • JC,

      Thanks for your insight as someone who really knows dogs.

      I like that you emphasis training because I continue to say that is the most overlooked aspect for all dog owners, regardless of survival plans.

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      • I know this post will be lost in the noise by the time I have posted it. But training in this thread is important. My lab was trained to respond to agressivness. My wife was deaf in one ear and had a newborn. We didn't need a dog who barked at every leaf, but wanted one who could assess a situation. He was trained appropriately – but WAS SURELY SELF AWARE. He was housebroken, by HIMSELF, in 10 days. He never raised his paws or jumped except on me when playing. If I chased my child, the dog ran past me and confronted me as a barrier.
        Why do I brag on a dog who died years ago and my friends still talk about? Because he was THAT GOOD. Purebred- mutt – I've had them all. Good and bad, trained or not ( my current dogs cannot roll over) – under stress, they will protect you. I believe that. They may not attack, but the alarm will go up. Just tonight, my beagle growled at a pile of lumber after sniffing around, no doubt another mouse in the basement….

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  23. Dogs are great to have around the house. I have two, a german sheppard who guards outside and a lab that guards inside. However, if shtf and I take these two dogs they are going to do what they have been taught, that is to bark at intruders. So if i'm trying to hide my family in the woods from others who would do us harm, I will not take them. They will give our position away and therefore bring harm to my family. Having said that, if you have trained your dog not to bark or if you have surgically removed the larynx from the dog, and taught them not to run off or run after game, by all means i would take them. There are other ways of knowing when the dog alerts. Just a thought

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  24. Rhodesian Ridgeback is the Best survival dog. It is like the Navy Seals of dog breeds and can keep up with a running horse for 30 miles. Great heat and cold tolerance. Least amount health problems. heres more info ps DONT get this dog if you a "you have to hit your dog to train it" types or a my dog is my child this bread Wont respond to that!

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    • not many peaple know of the dogo argentino but it would be very good in a survival situation
      can be very pertective has a very strong prey drive but needs a strong owner

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    • Heeler breed from Australia (Cattle Dog, not Sheppard), all the way. You've never seen a more capable small dog before, highly intelligent and fierce attack dogs. Loyal, loyal dogs.

      Breed Motto:
      "NOBODY F*CKS WITH MASTER!"

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    • One time in the past I was thinking of Rhodesian Ridgeback. It was in Oklahoma. I could not find a good breeder. Those of them I could find were absolutely indifferent to strangers. Anyone could come up, pet them or lead away… You are a lucky one to have good RR.

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  25. i have a German Shepherd (jack) that i trained to hunt. then had police training with my uncle (police chef) as a backup k9 unit. I'm taking my dog with me. since he was trained to hunt he points in stead of barking so hes very quiet when i tell hem to be.

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  26. Don't have a dog but will be getting one. I'm getting older and a dog or dogs just add to my families defenses and protection. Trained right and one of each male and female from different breeders Good to Go. Check out California Karelians also know as Bear dogs. Not giving anything away but my safe spots have Big bears and wolves around.

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  27. Of course, I WILL take my dog. She is well socialized and a joy to be around. But, when a threat is perceived, she is 130 pounds of bad attitude. The South African Boerboel breed is totally committed to family protection/farm protection. She is obedience and protection trained (to help her to distinguish a threat from a non-threat). The breed needs no attack training. More bite strength than a pit bull and almost twice the weight. She is a machine when she needs to be. As long as I have food, she will also have food.

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  28. a canoe, you can travel across much of the US and Canada, carry a lot of stuff. Dutch oven can cook like a regular stove: fry bake stew boil.
    If you can stay put: barley, wheat even a small plot can keep you well fed.
    With barley and a small still you can have fuel grade alcohol and eat the "left over" barley

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  29. There are much cheaper ways to take advantage of the "Berkey" ceramic filters. You could just buy a ceramic replacement filter and build your own containment system (using plastic buckets) for about $50. Check out this link for almost everything you want to know about water, including easy plans to build your own gravity fed ceramic filter system.
    http://www.grandpappy.info/wwater.htm

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  30. Yeah, honestly depends on the dog.

    When I move out on my own I'm getting me an Alaskan Malamune or a Siberian Husky and training it to be a SAR dog. He can help people, be my best friend and be well trained so he can come with me should I have to bug out. Though, I am praying that day will never come.

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  31. Would somebody tell me what F%@k is going on…Pleeease. We haven't received a Lucas post for over a month. Is Lucas or Zack sick? Is the site closed down? Has the SHTF and I need to come out of my shelter to take a look see? WHAT????

    Peter

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    • LOL… dude I was wondering if anyone would say that, too true. And by the way everyone an ancient Chinese(?) saying "Dog will keep your stomach warm" It has a double meaning, a dog can give you a safe feeling but ou can eat it too. In case you are wondering yes/no dog tastes like chicken, lol, and it takes a long time to digest too.

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  32. Every gun mentioned has its pros and cons. I personally feel the shotgun is the way to go when concerning a B.O.B. Any shotgun out there can be modified to reduce the weight, ammo capacity, range and lethality/power. I personally am not going to be concerned with the long range capapbilities of my Bug Out Gun. I want versatility for hunting and defense. If you have a Bug Out Bag and Gun, you already a step ahead of most of the population and will not likely find yourself in need of long range capabilities for defense. To be on the safe side, simply keep yourself on a path that oferes good cover from such attacks. The shotgun is the best option for hunting. Even the people who scored 'expert' at the range in the military will have a hard time hitting a rabbit on the run while using a rifle of any kind.

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  33. We have a mini dachshund who thinks he's a rottweiler! He has brought me squirrels, mice, rats he has caught and killed. He is very protective of our family and would alert at any threat which presented.

    I have bought a 30ft lead and a body harness with handle on top just so we could take him with if SHTF. Let out on lead and reel him in and pick him up and go if things get too hairy!

    Anyone who says this dog would be no good in survival mode is crazy! Plus he's a part of my family so why would I even think about leaving him behind?!

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  34. We have a mini dachshund who thinks he's a rottweiler! He has brought me squirrels, mice, rats he has caught and killed. He is very protective of our family and would alert at any threat which presented.

    I have bought a 30ft lead and a body harness with handle on top just so we could take him with if SHTF. Let out on lead and reel him in and pick him up and go if things get too hairy!

    Anyone who says this dog would be no good in survival mode is crazy! Plus he's a part of my family so why would I even think about leaving him behind?!

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    • The full size were originally bred to corner badgers, which I understand are quite vicious when attacked. You pulled the dog out of the badger hole by his tail. That's why they are so determined nd love game hunting. If you can carry him when his little legs and back are tired, I say go for it! Good for you.

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  35. I like the idea of beer and tobacco for bartering. Much more useful than some shiny metal. And besides, if things don't become some post-apocalyptic movie, you just don't have to go to Costco for a while.

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  36. or even a heeler or innumerable Terrier breeds. I grew up with a Rhodesian ridgeback. He was my favorite dog ever and at 150 lbs a gentle giant. But god help the poor ignorant son of a gun who walked into our house without knocking, or after hours, or messed with the kids. When samson came after you it might as well have been a grizzly bear.

    only downside was that being as big as a horse, he also ate like a horse.

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  37. I definitely say bring the dog or try to acquire one if the S**t hits the fan. Working breeds Definitely would be a safer and smarter bet but beware of breeds with Health issues like boxers or even Dobbermans have been known to be bleeders if they even get a tiny wound they could die, not like there will be any vets readily available. Don't overlook pitbulls they may have a bad reputation but thy are an excellent all purpose breed. I like the idea of having a Ridgeback too they are fearless .I think the morale aspect of having a dog outweighs the risks involved. Better get a pup and start training!!!!! A big decision involves the coat of the dog short or long and your seasonal climate.

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  38. I have four HUGE Dogs, a pyranese, female, a rhodesian ridgeback, female, and two male malamutes, combined they can haul me, all my gear, and have room left over for another person. They are all young, strong, silent, and I have seen each of them take on four or more (7 once, but i ended up shooting one to even the odds) coyotes at once and walk away from it unharmed. Yes, in case you missed that, thats ONE of the malamutes vs six coyotes.

    They really dont eat much, if you stick to 30 percent meat, 30 percent grains, and 40 percent vegetables. They actually, combined, eat maybe 3 thousand calories a day.

    Id rather have them along than an extra human, sure they cant actually talk, or use opposable thumbs, but they are far more useful imo.

    I actually have some very light armor for them, just a certain fabric that folds around them in the vital areas. Weighs about a half pound per dog, but It will keep them alive if they fight anything around here (biggest non human predator is a wolf)

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  39. My family and i had a Ridgeback and her intelligence and power was amazing. They are natural protectors, when we lost her (passed away) there was no question in our family about what type of dog we would get. Ridgeback all the way. Now we also added a mutt (half ridgeback) to our "pack". I have seen Ridgebacks in action and there is no way anyone is getting near the family with our Ridgebacks there to protect. When SHTF a good dog is a must, especially to keep unwanted visitors off our land.

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  40. yes I'm taking ours with us I and my family has spent alot of time training our 4 month old lab to find and root out rodents and has actully caught a live duck while we were teaching him to water retreave , this doesn't take much proding but getting a lab to bring whatever it is back to you is the trick they usualy want you to chase them to get it so if you have a young lab work on this. do some blank practice to take the gun shy thing away . other than that proper training and work . most working dogs will be in they're glory when they are workin g so its best to use this to train. all dogs are by nature predators so if you and your family are seen as they're pack than you should train as a pack we taught our dog with whistles clicks and hand signals

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  41. I agree training is a must. If they don't even have basic training the dog will be more of a pain to take with than a benefit. My dog can't hunt but I'm confident in his training and he never leaves my side. I have had good dogs in several breeds an a mutt an only 1 of my labs would I have considered to leave behind due to training and health issues. As someone said before noise can be muzzled but an uncontrollable dog isn't very useful.

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  42. Out of my various bug out locations, one is an old underground train station that nobody knows about anymore, another is a mine, and either of those could be rat infested, my dog is coming with me, and will be able to feed himself for weeks.

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  43. Definitely include dogs in my plan. I and my wife have four of different breeds and sizes, and they all would come in handy for different situations. Security, hunting, food at the last resort.
    But the best thing of all would be thier companionship, to ease the mental strain. As one of the hardest things for survival is the ability to maintain your composure and think straight in your situation and with your dogs with you, this would give you a sense of normalcy to be able to keep your head straight on path and in the game in which you are trying to make the best out of a possible bad survival situation

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  44. I go for the larger breeds. Have a Newfoundland/Great Pyrenees cross, at 19 months she is just over 100 pounds, solid on hand commands, quiet unless she needs to be noisy, and being Big and Black she is rather intimidating. Here is the odd part, she only eats between 2 and 3 cups of food a day? Also have a Catahoula in the family, he weighs about 80 # and eats between 5 and 7 cups of food?! Train a larger dog to carry a pack (painters really), and they can carry a LOT of weight. Mine can carry a couple hundred rounds of .308, enough food for 10 days, all her own water, and about 15# of other gear. She can go as far as I can in a days walk. I sure wouldn't leave home w/o her!

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  45. 3 dog night wasn't just a band from the 70s. This was a term used by indians about how cold the night was. The colder the weather the more dogs one would sleep with.

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  46. Another useful animal is a cat. I don't know if I would bug out with one, but when you are settled somewhere they make a great rodent control. In some cases of stravation the cat will bring you rodents to eat. I once had a cat who had this habit. Rodents are a big problem when you are protecting your food stash. Since they eat rodents you won't have to feed them.

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  47. i'm awfully surprised that my breed of dog isn't listed. We have a German Shorthair Pointer – "bird dog" he is the fastest, most agile, loyal, loves swimming in even long distances, guards when necessary.. Amazing stamina as well and eats only one bowl of food per day. he would kill a wild chicken every day for us : ) when the tsunami hit hawaii last year, maverick kept us calm and happy. I'm going with the dog – they don't talk back and will only love you.

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  48. We live in bear country and have a ridgeback/elkhound and a mastiff/akida. When in the woods, and we are regularly, they are with us. When they perceive an unknown they are between us and the question. As to extra food etc. they both have panniers for their own food and supplies. They are strong, so could pull a cart or sled if necessary. Definite visible deterrents to any bad acters. Can be quiet and obtrusive or "in your face". Are head strong and not for the untrained owner. They question you constantly and expect you to be alpha, else they will be. Have gone as far and as fast as we could go. Experience tells me that a well trained, fit owner/dog team would be an asset in a survival situation.

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  49. The military has used dogs for early alert. I'dgo with a dog. The only real negatives are barking at the wrong time and unwanted movement. You don't have to feed a dog. They'll eat crud that would drop a mule.

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  50. I have a male catahoula and he stays with me all day, he goes to work with me and he sleeps in the bed at night. He is an excellent hunter and an even better gaurd dog. He has proven that he will protect me in more than one situation and almost attacked me when i was play wrestling with the kids in the yard. He is only around 55 pounds and doesnt eat that much. And he also catches some of his own food. I wouldnt hesitate or think twice about taking him anywhere in a bug out situation.

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  51. Shackleton and Scott had such a horrendous time using dogs in the Antarctic. Dog-food got tainted, and sick and dying dogs was bad for men’s moral too. They had to kill the weakest dogs and feed them to the stronger ones, and they didn’t have enough bullets. It seems they might have eaten some of the dogs on one occasion at least. This finally convinced them to leave dogs at home and pull their own sled. On the extreme other hand, Amundsen did the dog thing right, and beat them all to the pole.

    I guess that illustrates that dogs are a plus in a survival situation, but can as easily be done wrong enough to cause fiasco.

    Lot’s of people have mentioned Rhodesian Ridgebacks, but nobody has talked about the farm invasions in Zimbabwe where they come from. To ground this hypothetical debate out in some cold hard reality: Lots of farmers were driven off their land, attacked, murdered, under siege etc., in short, given good reasons to bug-out. Lots of people tried to take their dogs along, though some dogs had to be sacrificed as diversions to keep the fleeing families alive. Many people were still trying to find out the whereabouts or save dogs they lost or had to leave behind once they were safely out of the country. After losing everything, few could afford quarantine to get their dogs emigrated with them. Large numbers of dogs were given up for adoption in neighbouring South Africa, especially where the owners emigrated to OZ or New-Zealand.

    Then the horror stories started surfacing about how the farm invaders had abused, tortured and slaughtered dogs they found after driving the farm owners off the land. When the people were out of reach, they vented their hatred on the dogs.

    I adopted my dog after he was abused and neglected by a previous owner. He’s is old and not very healthy. I’ve carried him home a time or two when he’s been unable to complete the walk around the block. I can not take him with me if I have to run, and I’d rather take his life than let him be abused by people who hate me.

    In his day though, there just wouldn’t be a question, he’d be a huge asset.

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  52. Man has been living with dog as a symbiotic companion for (from stuff I have read in school) over 100,000 years. I would say, get a dog. plus, it would be a mobile food source if everything went to hell.

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  53. You all will laugh at this one!!! Our Chihuahua is the most aggressive girl we've had so far (and we've had a Germ Shep, Pit, Beagle and Golden Ret). This "ankle bitter" is meaner and more aggressive than all the others. She's portable, barks at everything that moves (unlike our bigger dogs), has killed several squirrels, a crow, rats and is willing to take on big prey (neighborhood German Sheps, Dobies and others). If she had to, she'd eat only what she can catch. I've worked under a dog trainer who specialized in the sale and training of German bred guard dogs (for the military and private owners)…great dogs, great companions, undeniably loyal to the end. In all seriousness, we'd take both. They are family members and just like those that have useful skill sets when the going gets tough, they also have something to contribute. Laughter being one thing and we'll all need that!

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  54. Dustin,

    What would you say is the difference between a guard dog and an attack dog? I don't make that distinction, but based on my assumptions about what you mean, I would go the opposite way. Just curious about how you define those terms.

    DK-9

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  55. My dog is 6 lbs, wears a pink sweater and has a plate in her leg. Pro: great conversation piece if you happen to come across a starving hot girl in the desert. Con: I have a girlfriend so that won't work well and the two girls would just end up talking to each other. Pro: Possibility of a survival three way. Con: When was the last time we all showered? Pro: I don't have to shower before or after the three way.

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  56. Depends on your situation and needs . If your staying put , might not be a bad idea if you plan for its care . If your on the move ,and trying to keep a low profile , they are probably going to be more of a hindrance than a help .

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  57. The value of a well trained dog seems obvious. I can't imagine mine not being with me.

    However, one thing I haven't seen discussed yet – I work about 20 miles from my home. Do I backtrack and pick up my pooch before heading out to my bug out location, or go straight to my bug out location?

    He might not be there by the time I make it back. Thoughts?

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  59. The only problem with eating the dog is that if you wait till the dog is starving to eat him you can make yourself sick, when the dog starts to starve his body starts eating his own muscles and the dog develops aciddosis wich a dog can tolerate to a much higher degree than humans. When Amundsen went to the south pole he had to kill his dogs on a set schedule before they were starving so he didn't posion anybody.

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  60. my dogs carry their own packs, food , water and spare gear so they are helpful little beasties
    but it took them a while to get used to the added weight.

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  61. I have a genius of a small dog, who doesn't bark, but if you attack any of his family, he will attack you immediately back. Low Food intake, no bark, wonderful hunter, Good dog.

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  62. I read most of the posts on here and was surprised one has said anything about dogs they actually take hunting with them. I have two Brittanys I use for bird hunting and they would most definitely be going with me.

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  63. Depends on the dog … not the breed, but the individual dog. One of my survival role models was a gunfighter in the old west. He spent alot of time alone, so he trained a little white mutt to sit on the withers of his horse and to wake him up whenever anyone approached. Not by barking, but by licking his face. This tactic saved his life more than once. The small dog was essentially a portable silent alarm system and companion.

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  64. I think you have a responsibility to take care of your dog in any situation. When you become a dog owner, your that animals only life line. Domesticated dogs are like their cat counterparts. theyve become dependent on us for not only food but love and affection. While cats could care less, and they could probably readapt to their ancestral instincts pretty quickly.

    Dogs arent simply just animals theyre part of the family. Theyre extraordinarily loyal, and should be given the same loyalty. If your not willing to take care of a dog in any disaster situation then you should get a dog at all.

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  65. I am taking my dog. Yeah I'd probably need to feed him but I have planned for that with some The Honest Kitchen dehydrated food(which is also human grade so if push came to shove I could eat it too) He already more than keeps up with me on hikes, the intimidation factor of a tiny girl with a Rott also makes me feel justified in keeping him based on that alone. And I am always cold and he is very good at being a heater.

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  66. Remember that most but not all will protect and attack if their family is in danger. I had a mut border color and a Shepard/husky mix that were super smart and can be counted on for anything. I also had a pure bread shepherd that was wurthles. At leased he had slot of meat on him.

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  67. Bring the dog! Hands down the best choice possible. They can carry, work, and in a pinch.. they don't mind keeping your feet warm. Open your fart sack and find one dog that one race to the bottom. They eat everything. And the deader the better. Herd dogs are my prefered breed. Heelers, Shelties, or any dog that can work a herd. They'll help you hunt, tree, fetch, and they don't care how bad you stink, they dont' care you didn't catch any fish, and they don't care how drunk or what time you came home. They just missed you. 5 minutes or 5 weeks. It's all the same to them. People should take a lesson from dogs.

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  68. Lot of interesting thought put into all of this. But nobody said what they will do if they have to leave their dog behind. I agree that you have a responsibility to your animal, but sadly the reality is that self-preservation should be your priority. We have two little ones, a full size older dachshund and a deaf boston terrier (smush faced dog.) There's no way the dachshund could make it. She's dying from a heart condition and tires easily. Weighs too much to carry. So, what's our plan?

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    • We will walk out with the dogs, and let her go in the woods, to give her a fair chance. Otherwise, she'll starve, or run in front of a car. Dachshunds are great hunters. We'll take the Boston as far as we can, and decide if we need to cut him loose. Odds are he'll follow us on his own, and scavenge for his food. What's the alternative? Leave them to die of starvation and thirst, as many pets did in Katrina? Or to get killed by wild packs of dogs that will form? Or be killed and eaten by those who stay behind? I'd rather give him a fighting chance outside of an urban area. If you don't want to take these guys, are you prepared to humanely put them down? Can you bring yourself to shoot your dog? If it was my best option, I could (like Old Yeller) , but I'm hoping it's not my best option. And BTW, be sure and familiarize yourself with the signs of rabies, because if TEOTWAWKI happens, wildlife will eventually spread rabies to the wild dog population, or even your own dog who hunts beside you.

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  69. I personaly believe it would be a good idea. Exspecialy. If it is we trained. A friend of mine owns a pit, dobermen, rot mix and it only barks when sombody it dosent know approches. And with its looks and breed mix it makes it looks more vishious then it is. But it is quite a nice dog. As well as they took it hunting so it was trained and when ever it herd a noise it would point for about 30 sec or so befor barking inless the owner said something to it. I think the pros of having one out waighes the cons of having a dog. And they know how to fend for themselve

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  70. Okay, I've read a bunch of comments most seem to be discussing the value of a trained, young dog.But would you take your pet house dog? My dog is not trained to hunt or track or guard or anything. I know my answer, I wonder what your's is.."Do you take your pet dog?Not the hypothetical one the one you actually have right now?"

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    • I think the only two critical things for taking a dog with you would be:
      1. Is he generally quiet (not a hysterical nonstop source of noise)?
      2. Does he obey basic commands like sit/stay/heel/come here?

      If he can be controlled without a physical leash/collar, and he doesn't bark all the time (attracting attention and making it impossible to tell if there is a real threat), then he doesn't have to be trained to hunt or fight.

      I'm another vote for 'take the dog, yes' as long as it meets those two minimum requirements. The benefits of having a dog along, any type/breed/size, far outweigh the logistical problems – as long as you can control him hands free, and he doesn't spend all his time making noise for no good reason.

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    • my response to this is simple yes no matter the dog breed,or size…..you would be remarkably surprised what a dog can do sometimes an they have instincts they can tap into that could surprise you …ive read stories of simple lap,toy dogs traveling miles across harsh terrain to find their owners an survive after a hurricane,flood or being lost …..if they can do that alone think about what they can bring to the table…… dont underestimate them

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  71. Visit Family Disaster dogs at http://www.familydisasterdogs.com and find out how your dog can learn to rescue you. Your dog can be your family's very own search dog after a few of the free lessons I post weekly..no charge at all..I spent 10 years training search dogs with volunteers. Plus 30 yrs as a dog breeder and training pet dogs,15yrs of it living remote,off the grid with 3 home schooled children and surviving.

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  72. I remember my paper route as a kid. When I came to a house that had a barking or growling dog, that guy didn't get his paper that day and I went home sweating and in need of a new pair of underwear. I hated dogs that were scary growing up. now, I just look at them and put a .45 between their eyes and proceed (only if it was in the same scenario, not just because)

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  73. In defense of all dogs in sizes and breeds, if a shtf scenario and I am on the run and by myself… man or not, I will be partially stressed and at times scared and if dogs do then what mine does now, they are someone to talk to and bring joy into your hearts. It might be worth feeding the food just to keep yours around for companionship so you are not alone. There are a lot of other reasons like flushing out the hunted food and guard dogs etc. but you can't ignore the fuzzy security and warmth in your heart of your dog. Unless your not an animal lover and think of them and just droolers and crappers that their only life's goal is to be fed and chained up outside and never really have contact with many humans. Then, whats the point of surviving?

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  74. I've never though about my dogs in a bug out situation and raise my dogs to be very social, like bringing them to the dog park atleast a few times a week, However I think my American bulldog has the territorial instinct and would rip a intruder to sheds to protect me. She is a great watch dog, though very timid when it comes to things like paper bags or boxes around the house, when she hears or see someone or something that is a lil sketchy she shows it!!!! If you saw a mean american bulldog, you'd crap your pants. My Boxer though, hes still a puppy but I think he doesnt have a mean bone in his body. But he is super smart and could potentially know the difference between survival and everyday life. He is very trainable and agile. Defense, Go with an american bulldog and go one step further and get the "guard dog training" or whatever it is and these smart BULL dogs can and will take down anything in its way in a controlled manner. I just want to add a note for the american bulldog and any other bully breed or working dog like rots or whatever. You have to train them not to show aggression towards you or other humans. If you want to wrestle with the dog, USE A TUG A WAR ROPE ( which they enjoy and can be a good exercise for you) take bones,food and toys away from them when they are eating so they don't get aggressive, All in how you raise them. The little dogs are the worst cause owners think that they are cute and avoid the dog ISSUES and the little dogs turn to crazy annoying dogs. Im pro dog. I live in the city too without a fence and i let my dogs out to play and do there thing, mostly supervised. But we do have alot of walkers on the side walk that I try to get my dogs in the house if I see them so the walkers dont feel uncomfortable

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  75. pitbulls……..dont buy into the bs about them ….they are loyal,tough as all hell,need little to survive,an are very big with companionship….oh an they are very very intelligent an very protective of their group…..very obedient good dogs when raised the correct way

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  76. Bring the dogs!! the bigger the better. they can safely carry 25-30% of there body weight in a pack, and if you build them a cart they can pull 3 times there weight. So food and water weight shouldnt be a concern as they can carry there own plus some of yours.

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  77. You can feed a dog anything. Dogs are scavengers. They will eat the hide and bones off an animal you kill and live very happily on that and the random plants they choose to eat in the wild. Dogs can live on their own without you so to think you need to provide for them is sheer folly.

    Dogs can be trained to do just about anything. You can train them not to bark or make noise. You can train them to alert you to helicopters or vehicles that are many many miles away. You can even train them to seek out ammunition, cash, or other cashed items if you so desire.

    At the same time, if you are starving, you can eat a dog. You can breed dogs simply to have another food supply if you needed to. You can even drink dogs milk if so desperate.

    Dogs are an asset. Any detriment they may have is far outweighed by the benefits. Of course you need to train your dog and get the right dog for your situation. Luckily there are hundreds of breeds and thousands of breed combinations that can suit any possible scenario you can imagine.

    The thing is, people don't have the knowledge or desire to properly train a dog. If you want the animal to work for you, you have to put the time and effort in to not only understanding a dogs motivations, but knowing the techniques to use those motivations to your advantage. Luckily if you get a new dog, the trained dog will go a long way in teaching the new dog the ropes. Dogs will pick up behaviors from other dogs and makes training a lot easier in the long run.

    Watch this video to get an idea of what is possible, then make your mind up about how you want to manage.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xe0-oqqoXvw

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  78. Oh, and another thing, if you are training your dog, don't use common word commands. Use a foreign language. Also if you want to really have a pimp survival dog, know this. Dogs respond to hand signals and even slight motions of your eyes. You can train a deaf dog, so you should train your dog as if it is deaf so you can give commands silently.

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  79. I have German Shepherds and they're coming. As far as the cons, no problem. My K9s have their own bug-out bags which they wear themselves that carry food, water, meds and gear. As for the noise, research on how to teach your dog the "quiet" command, it's not that difficult and much easier than leaving your dogs behind.

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  80. I read about 25 of these comments so Please forgive me if I restate something.
    I agree that toy and teacup dogs while weighing nothing and eating about the same may Bring cheer, they are hawk food and not filling for us in the case we need to eat them. I have a 3 year old Boston terrier named Jackie Chan(check her out on YouTube). She is as sweet and docile as a newborn baby. But she will straight run down and kill a rabbit or a tree rat! She’s even gotten several snakes! She always brings it to me as I am pack leader. She can live on a quarter tree rat a day and I can live on the rest, and she can get 3 or 4 a day. She doesn’t bark unless She’s wrestling. When she’s alerting to danger she makes a quiet groan not a bark. She can Also carry about 3lbs of stuff when we hike and camp. She’ll live to be 15 or so. Don’t even get me started on how she and my dobie pup(still unnamed) are already hunting birds and bunnies as a pack in the yard. So I’m pro dogs that work vs “working dogs”

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  81. Dbwyk is dead on!! JC responds hand signals as well where I point my eyes. And as I started before she’s already teaching the pup to hunt with her. Cheap fireworks do wonders for helping dogs get over being gun shy.

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  82. Last comment I promise.
    Heartworms a lot of times come from fleas and ticks and poop. Don’t let your dog sniff poop or eat it! Bring some concentrated cedar oil, or tea tree oil or even the citronella you use on yourself. Bugs don’t like it, you can make it yourself and it’s better than going totally without and raiding every store you come across for it.

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  83. Last comment I promise.
    Heartworms a lot of times come from fleas and ticks and poop and skeeters . Don’t let your dog sniff poop or eat it! Bring some concentrated cedar oil, or tea tree oil or even the citronella you use on yourself. Bugs don’t like it, you can make It yourself and it’s better than going totally without and raiding every store you come across for it.

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  84. She may be a fat little pug, but she's part of the family– and is surprisingly fearsome and agile–It may be the end of the world, but I'm sure not going to leave her behind.

    plus she's like a mini furnace and likes to snuggle, very useful for staying warm at night

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  85. No brainer!!! My dog is my constant companion and anywhere I go, he goes (even the toilet). I would gladly not eat, to see him eat. His love and companionship would be my salvation.

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  86. If you want a dog that you can love and can protect you, I would suggest a German Shepered, I know a few commands in German so I can tell my dog to attack without anyone knowing. German Shepereds are wonderful and beautiful dogs and they can be trained to kill and protect. They have been used all over the world in police and military. I hope this comment heped!

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  87. I see a great deal of comments pro dog, but I feel some commentary on the cons a dog poses are necessary. Dogs would be hindered by escape scenarios. While we would be intent on hopping fences, wedging between poles and even climbing ladders or buildings, dogs simply cannot cover these obstacles. Granted, this only applies to scenarios such as urban survival (so wilderness survivalists need not contradict me on these things) but I feel that in escape aspects a dog would slow you down considerably. Not to mention a dog's mentality of loyalty to its master. A human being will rationalize when the odds are against them and can take flight, but I feel a dog would be static, choosing to holds its ground to ward off would be attackers. This does not bode well because the dog can suffer injuries or otherwise be killed in the line of duty so to say. I don't know how many people have experience with the 'old yeller' scenario, putting down a dog that is too injured or sickly to continue, but I can assure you it is a proverbial knife in the lung… it may not kill you, but you will reel from it. Psychologically you are putting too much faith, love and companionship in with a dog (which I completely understand, I have a labrador retriever that I love dearly), but should you have to put it down, could you? Every scenario and action will have an equally powerful reaction, so everything should be planned out meticulously. Should you survive a SHTF event, most peoples' idea of a "work dog" is a strong, able bodied dog, regardless of playfulness or tenacity, it will already have years on it. The average lifespan of a dog is 10-12 years, maybe 15+ if you have a hell of a surviver, but that will also factor age into the survival event. When the time comes, will a dog even be strong enough to keep up with you? Does the dog require medications or any form of therapy? Too many cons for me to consider… the pros to having a dog can all be eliminated by an experienced hunter or punctual watchman. And should the dog come into contact with other dogs or survivors? If it's not all loving and affectionate, you will have constant dog fights on your hand that can injure one or both parties. Too much of a hassle in my opinion. A bullet or a knife can be used on an enemy dog encroaching on myself, but if two dogs are fighting? How can you be sure you'll hit the other dog without injuring your own? Psychologically a dog can be very comforting, but it lacks the range of movement a human has. Even a dog with a little limp in its leg can hinder the survivalist exponentially. All I would say is be very careful when considering bringing your dog with you. As much of a boon as he can be, he will also be a liability. You must be willing to do anything that will ensure your survival, and you may find yourself using important supplies to ensure the livelihood of your friend. Food for thought…

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  88. Okay, so i'm about to be going into the wilderness to live for 5 years. Eventually making my way to the Artic Circle to spend a year or 2 there on my own. I'm thinking about what breed i want to take with me that can survive the lifestyle and the climates which will be mostly reaching below 0 in the winter times. I was thinking about Akita, but I know theyre very protective, however, i'm not sure how they are in relation to game tracking… help?

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  89. My 8.5 lb dachshund isn't going to be able to carry his own food, but he'll certainly be able to catch it. And I'll have to carry his water, and probably him at times. Can he take the hikes? I don't know. Will he be the cause of some difficulties? Probably. Will anyone be getting within 20 feet of me without me knowing about it? Not a chance. In any case, I made a commitment when I got him to take care of him, and I plan to honor it.

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  90. Well I have to say I am PRO Dog.. I have 2 myself… my large one is a long hair German Shepherd who is trained in Personal Protection and also hunts, I also have a mini dachshund… who believe it or not is AWESOME at hunting the small underground game… so either way they are both useful.. my little guy has a pack… so my daughter will carry him when he isnt walking, I choose my breeds because of the hunting, protection,and great family companions. and we are thinking about adding to the protection aspect with another German Shepherd. this will add to the protection of aspect for the other dog having back up and higher chances on hunting. As for food for the dogs….they will be eating what is killed…it will be shared by us all.

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  91. I have a Blue Heeler, and an Australian Sheppard. Both dogs are very obedient do well off leash and have a strong hunting instinct. The Heeler has caught a few ground squirrels and I have seen her eat lizards and the occasional coyote dropping, so I'm sure she can fend for herself. She is medium hair and does well in snow or heat, her merle coloring is excellent camouflage, sometimes I can only see her tongue. She is great at finding water, an excellent swimmer and drys off very quickly, as well as being very agile and can easily scale short cliffs and make log crossings. She always alerts me when someone or thing is near and the indicator is usually a quiet growl or an alert body stance. She is more a guard dog and definitely not an attack dog but Heelers have an aggressive reputation. She is 37 lbs an likes to sleep next to me so she is an great for a source of heat. She will chase small animals, usually up trees where they are an easy target if I needed. but she never runs off more than a few hundred yards. I often hide when she does, this game put the onus on mys dogs to always know where I am so I never need to call them. The only con to this dog is the very rare bark which could ruin an effort to remain stealth. Both dogs a great but the Heeler is better than the Australian Shepard in a few areas. The Aussie main shortcomings are because of the long hair which is problematic in deep snow, is slow to dry, and doesn't do as-well in the heat. But having two dogs does have some advantage when hunting and when I camp at night they post up on each side keeping eyes and ear out in twice as many directions. Another added benefit with training is your dogs can help you find your way back if you get lost. And if you need to keep quiet teach for dog all the necessary commands with hand signals.

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  92. My dog has already proven that she will share food with me. She killed a rabbit in the yard and brought the back half into my living room. While I was horrified by the carnage, I was also deeply touched that she thought of me. I'll be taking the dog with me.

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  93. we have a coon hound who loves pointing out potential meals by treeing them…would only be a sling shot shot away from a meal

    Jon

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  94. Part of preparation is preparing your family and that means your dog. It has been proven that dogs are happier when they have a job to do, have structure and have responsibilities within a family. I have a German Shepherd puppy and I was able to adopt him through a breed-specific rescue organization. I just happen to like their personalities, but you could not ask for a better working breed. They are naturally perimeter sensitive and they are extremely loyal.

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  95. A dog is a great asset to any survival situation because:

    1. They can help you find water. When they get thirsty, their sense of smell will lead you to water, and typically water that is potable. (But that does not negate the need to purify it. Dogs can handle bacteria that we cannot)

    2. They can carry a lot. My little bugger loves his backpack (surprising) and will eventually be able to carry his own supplies.

    3. They can help you find your way. I am training my guy to lead me. He typically picks the best paths through the Sierra Nevadas and through crowds. He instinctively knows where the exits are and he is only 7 months old.

    4. They can track. Lost people and other animals.

    5. A mountain lion, bear or coyote will avoid a dog. Assuming that they are not rabid or cornered.

    6. As many people mentioned. They are one of the best early warning systems that has ever existed. This allows for one of the most overlooked keys to survival…sleep.

    These are just a few, but they are part of my reasons for taking them.

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  96. Hey, here’s a crazy idea of why having a decent sized adult dog around is a good thing-just like horses, they can be used to carry some supplies. They can even be trained to pull things, which in an ideal situation will leave you to be able to carry more supplies.
    Even crazier idea with dogs? If they are trained for security and/or search and rescue, then you could be at an advantage. I would recommend lab/rhodesian ridgeback mix. I had a brother/sister pair. Best dogs I ever had-except my first one.
    Those two and their two siblings are the only mix like that I’ve ever come across and I’ve come across practically every combo possible (have a soft spot for saving canines). Yes, that includes dogs with wolf running through them.
    Pits are also good to have as they are strong, stout, once bred for fighting, and extremely good with kids. Pits are known as “nanny dogs” for a reason. Word of advice on pits though-abusive owners WILL be turned on-dogs trained for dog fighting included. They also need a firm but gentle hand more so than most other dogs. Their bad rep is mostly on American pits and none of the other pits. Their bad rep comes from the ones that were abused or trained for dog fights.
    Oh, and ridgebacks can be high strung so if you have a ridgeback mix, be aware they can take on that trait. They are also pretty reserved around people and animals they don’t know. I’ve read pure ridgebacks can way up to eighty pounds. Considering they are also known as african lion dogs and used to hunt lions, it shouldn’t surprise anyone how big they can get. Work best with at least one other ridgeback.
    Just something for everyone to think about.

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  97. We've been training our dog to walk with his pack attached (one weighted bag on each side).

    "If" the situation called for it, it's nice to know that the dog could also carry some additional backup supplies, plus having an extra set of eyes (and ears) for anything that might go bump in the night.

    People can turn on you, wives can leave you, but a loyal and well trained dog could be worth their weight in gold in the situation calls for it. I'd rather have the dog with me than some people I know.

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  98. – WHAT TO UNDERSTAND –

    The particular breed is second only to your personal connection with the animal. Ideally, you'll want a dog that can take care of itself as well as you and maintains some sort of instinctual, breed specific skill and hopefully doesn't eat too much (negotiable) – it takes most canines their entire lives to master a wide range of useful skills, but the majority of purebloods are exceptionally good at something specific.

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    • Oh yea, and a canine companion may be a useful "tool" but they're not a crescent wrench or a handgun. Is your retreat a 12-hour drive south into an isolated part of the desert? Don't buy a Siberian Husky now because you currently live in the Dakotas. THINK – your dog needs to be well suited for it's anticipated environment.

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  99. – COMMON MISTAKE –

    Hopefully any prospective doggy parents are at least considering breeds, but before that start at Square 1 – general type: Do your needs require a burly guard dog? A reliable tracker? A retriever with keen eye sight? Perhaps you even live in the desert where most wildlife is varmint sized and a terrier would be well-suited?

    You have small children? Don't waste time and resources on a dog that's just friendly and tolerates kids, most do. Commit to their well-being and adopt a herding dog to follow, look after and protect them. Instinctually, they'll just do this without training but positive reinforcement always helps, they're all highly intelligent with an almost 6th sense of situational awareness.

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  100. – TRIVIA –

    Mel Gibson's dog in The Road Warrior is known as a Blue Heeler, also referred to as a Cattle Dog (not to be confused with Australian Sheppard). While finding a dog that could comfortably ride inside the Interceptor was their main concern, the Heeler breed was eventually decided upon both because they are a native breed to Australia and therefore common to the fictional setting, as well as being fiercely loyal and vicious fighters. They're also uniquely healthy for canines and have an uncommonly low number of breed specific maladies.

    While both are herding dogs, the Australian Sheppard (bred from the common dingo) is more of guard dog. Alternatively, Heelers are prized for their ability to run-out and kill dingoes, making them more of a scrappy little fighting dog and are not afraid to take-on much larger prey.

    Many believe Heelers to be the ideal Bug-Out dog!

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  101. Mike, I agree. Some of the most ancient companions are still not too far from us: Laika, Saluki, Central Asian Ovcharka and a few more related to them types of aboriginal dog. However, they are not urban dogs.

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  102. i read through this, and its a tough choice depending on the dog. my long time friend and i were talking general SHTF situations and who we'd have with us. actually, i told him i'd take him second, when he asked who was first, i told my australian shepard. she is super intelligent and invaluable in any survival situation: for hunting, warmth, doesnt use up resources (unless you eat dog food) and can detect many things me as a stupid human wont. oh and simple joy, dogs are great for that!

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  103. iresh wolfhound the orgenal mans best frend 110# of the most loyl dogs ever can hunt eny thang from rats to elk on ther on and well bring it back to you tha respond to hand commands betr then spoken and well die be for your children are allowed to be hert naturally quiet with low matnes and food consumption only rell is ther only loel to you thae mack pore shopdogs

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  104. I'd have to take my Husky, BFF for sure! High energy, fierce, loyal, great hunter (look out birds and other small critters, including fish) though he doesn't like to share, he will. He's only about 35-40 pounds so I can lift him without any problem. Of course, like most dogs, he's very aware of his surroundings, so a great early warning system. Also, probably the world's best foot warmer!

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  105. I have a miniature bulldog and she is pretty good at hunting small prey and she always seems to bring it to me as well. She is quick enough to where she has caught a few birds alive and dropped them at my feet as they play dead. Also she brought a bone in the house which looked like a rabbit bone. Anyway I would never eat my dog starving or not..she is like my child. Call me dumb I do not care. If I was in a hunting situation her and I would be hunting together for each other no matter what.

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  106. Have been owned by seven dogs in my lifetime. Some mentioned here (German Shep.) and others like German Shorthair pointers and Weimaraners as well as 2 lab mixed. All were essentially good dogs, but the Weims were without a doubt the most loyal and hard working of the bunch! I have 2 now, one a full blooded male Weim that is going on 9 years and an aged female (15) that probably won't last much longer but still has lots of life and love in her. Trouble is, in a survival scenario, iit will depend on what you do of course, bug-out/in. Some dogs are very territorial and would be better at the bug-in scenario as are mine! They know the grounds, patrol them and let me know if anyone is around. They will not attak unless provoked and will stand their ground. A 95 pound Weimaraner is noting to take lightly! For bugging out, a good friend of mine does a lot of hiking and camping in the Bob Marshalll wilderness of Montana and has a Great Pyrenees that is over 135 pounds and very protective of him. Has driven away a mountain lion and several wolves, gotten bloodied in the efforts and is totally fearless but very responsive to voice commands. Id definitely an asset cause he wears a large pack and can haul his own food and other supplies. He also providees warmth during sub zero camp outs.

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  107. My dog is a pointer/black lab mix. He is 12 years old and has cancer but I sure as hell would NOT leave him behind. I would do anything I had to in taking care of him because he has taken good care of me all these years. Anyone who would not take their dog/dogs with them in a shtf situation probably should not have a dog in the first place.

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  108. I don't understand why food and water is the primary concern about the dog. Dogs can drink pond water, river water, puddle water etc. Also they can scavenge for food quite easily, the little dogs might eat less, but when the food runs out they will still end up scavenging much like their human partner. Surprising that most people haven't mentioned huskies or pound pups. Huskies are one of the hardiest dogs who are larger but eat less, can change their own metabolism, and survive in the harshest winters. As for pound pups, many of them were strays before they ended up at the pound, and therefore were already forced to seek out their own food before getting our handouts. Training might be nice in an ideal situation, but dogs are animals who will revert back to their more primal survival instincts should they have to. Absolutely take a dog, or multiple if you can.

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  109. I think a well-behaved medium-sized dog would be an asset.
    Companionship and early warning when people approach your camp.
    I'm not counting on a regular untrained dog to fight for me, and a dog that's aggressive and bites random strangers can be more of a liability. Remember, as you meet people on trails and at camps and try to trade and barter with others, and share information with others, you don't want your dog attacking the people you might otherwise want to talk to. Your dog could get shot, or get you and your group involved in a gunfight that wasn't necessary. But if I'm hiking down the trail and your dog comes at me like it's going to attack me, I might shoot it, and then I might have to shoot you next because of your reaction to me shooting your dog. For the same reason, don't travel with crazy people in your group. Be on your best behavior when out where you could meet others.

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  110. I guess that I don't understand why everyone is in favor of the super inbred dog breeds. A majority of the purebred dogs have food allergies. How is that going to work, when your ultimate dog can't even eat cheap dog food.?

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  111. 90% pro dog good to know if SHTF there's gonna be a lot of survivors with dogs. I especially like the mindset, not every dog is beneficial in size or breed traits but even the tiniest yapper can alert you to a threat so my suggestion is assess the area that live to determine your final decision. I have two blue heelers who will be accompanying me in a bad day scenario, they're trained for retrieval, herding, pinning, and a little bit of hunting if its short range (heelers don't have the best sense of smell for longer range, great for small game though since they can run down a rabbit real quick) not to mention they have their own survival harnesses outfitted when we go hiking all the time. The key is knowing your locale, if you're going to be in an urban area it might not matter the breed or an attack dog might be a better choice, if you are more rural and have the wild game and outdoors as your scenario a working dog or hunting dog would def have advantages especially those like mine in the medium to large breed. My best wishes and regards to everyone and may we never have to actually put our preps into action

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  112. Scouting ahead and finding trails that have no major obstacles / dangers for us to walk on – I'd think this could be useful to avoid taking a bad path and having to backtrack? Less of my energy wasted and less chance I'm going to fall down a ravine or get scratched and torn up by brambles / thorns. Also alerting to wildlife before I can see / hear it (best would be a pointer or border collie for this as they tend to be silent and point / stalk when they notice prey) – good for hunting and also avoiding dangerous large animals. Warmth too – if you have no family to huddle up with on cold nights when it's not safe to make a fire, a dog is great! They are extra warm as their body temperature is higher than a human's 🙂

    I would definitely take my dog, I think I have a much better chance with her than without her, plus I'm pretty sure she'd catch a certain amount of prey on her own (or scavenge already dead animals) meaning I wouldn't have to find that much extra food for her. Also since dogs can drink from all kinds of water sources without getting sick (even stagnant puddles) I wouldn't have to take extra water for her provided we were somewhere with enough natural water sources. It would also be possible to get the dog to carry their own water using one of those dog backpacks.

    That said I have a medium sized shepherd mix that is already well trained to be offleash in the countryside with very good basic obedience. A small yappy breed with no training I think would be more of a liability than a help.

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