69 Things You Should Stock but Probably Aren’t in 2020

UPDATED:ย  69 Items! Every survivalist message board and prepper blog tells you to stock the same things; weapons, water, food basics, etc. So, I went looking for a list of things that you should be stocking, but probably aren’t. Everything on the list will make your life many times easier after the SHTF, especially in a bugging-In scenario.

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1. Toothpaste and Toothbrushes
2. Gun Cleaning Supplies – cotton pads, Hoppe's, Rem Oil, etc
3. Duct Tape
4. Cooking Oil
5. Shampoo
6. Deodorant
7. Laundry Detergent
8. Books or other reading for enjoyment materials
9. WD-40
10. Sewing Supplies
11. Bolts, Nails Screws
12. Games
13. Paper and Pencils
14. Spare Parts for any and all gear
15. Musical Instruments
16. Lantern Mantles
17. Hand Tools
18. Broken window fix/replacement/cover (plywood or plastic panes)
19. Bleach
20. Household Cleaning Supplies
21. Sponges
22. Towels and Wash clothes
23. Gold Bond or Baby Power
24. Baby Supplies – diapers etc
25. Aloe
26. Sunscreen
27. Bug Spray (wearing kind)
28. Bug Spray (killing kind)
29. Comfort Foods – for morale
30. Chains and Locks
31. Isoprophyl (rubbing) alcohol
32. Mouse Traps
33. Lamp Wicks – for Oil and Alcohol Lamps
34. Lice Shampoo
35. Salt
35. Liquor
37. Glasses – Prescription and OTC

UPDATED:

38. Alcohol Wipes
39. Eyedrops
40. Pet Food
41. Fertilizer
42. Coolers
43. Buckets
44. Clothes Pins
45. Childrens clothes in sizes larger than they wear
46. Superglue
47. Wash board
48. Spray paint in black, white, green, brown and black.
49. Zippers, buttons, snaps, knee patches, velcro
50. Patches for tents and tarps
51. Garbage bags
52. Lime
53. Charcoal/lighter fluid
54. Birth control
55. Vitamins
56. Razor blades
57. Saw blades
58. Garden tools
59. Spark plugs
60. Motor oil
61. Manuel Air/Tire pump
62. Birdseed to attract wild birds (food source)
63. Fire extinguishers
64. Wire
65. Q-tips
66. Cotton balls
67. Corn Starch
68. Thermal Wear
69. Toilet paper

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What Else?

This is a short list of things we are probably forgetting. What other things are going to be essential, or especially useful in a survival scenario that you don’t hear about a lot? Leave a comment and tell us yours.

Getting Started with Stockpiling: stockpiling the correct items, storing them, and ensuring they work when you need it can be a difficult task. We recommend checking out this video blueprint on every step you need to take.



Written by Joel Jefferson

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787 thoughts on “69 Things You Should Stock but Probably Aren’t in 2020”

  1. Dustin,

    Thats a good point, I will change that in the article. I've never seen anyone catch a squirrel in a rat trap but some of the traps are pretty huge, I can see how it could be done.

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    • A squirrel pole is very effective. and the best wire I've found is florist wire. It is strong, colored green which makes it great for snares or tripwires. Sold in 5 dollar 115ft rolls at any craft store.

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    • For those who think rat traps won't work on squirrels, body grip traps in the 110 or 120 size works quite well. You can attach them to the tree trunk with small clips (sold to marten and fisher trappers) or make your own out of scrap pieces of conduit or whatever else is handy. You can attach just plain corn cob soaked in salt water and they will come for dinner. A couple of 110's don't take up much room and don't weigh much and several could be stored at a base camp or home. With the current fur prices, finding reasonably priced used traps or buying new isn't too expensive and with care, these investments will last generations.
      Rat traps are good security systems tho. Even if not utilized as a unconventional "claymore", they will make a loud snapping sound when tripped. They also give you that split second advantage by possibly spooking the intruder while they figure out what they just hit or where the threat is that caused the noise.
      Some feminine products are great for puncture wounds. They also make good tinder to catch a spark and are a required item in some military aviators' survival kits.

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  2. Great list!

    I would add rat traps, or replace the mouse traps with them. A mouse trap will likely not kill a rat, you can't really subsist on mice, but rat traps can catch squirrels, rats, and small rabbits or other critters that are large enough to bother to clean and cook up.

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    • Not a bad idea. One I never thought of. .22 rifles can get you a squirrel or rabbit, but you have to see it to shoot it. Traps hunt whether you are there or not.

      Great idea.

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  3. Great list!

    I would add rat traps, or replace the mouse traps with them. A mouse trap will likely not kill a rat, you can't really subsist on mice, but rat traps can catch squirrels, rats, and small rabbits or other critters that are large enough to bother to clean and cook up.

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    • Squirrels are very wiley animals, but they are greedy as well. They need to be watched beforehand… they have navigational habits. Unlike rats and mice, they do not prefer to have 2 solid planes of contact to feel secure – their movements on open ground are more like rabbits, and they usually do not actually go to the true bases of trees, but launch onto and off of the trunk about 1-2 feet up.
      Once they're in a tree, they are truly in their element – projectiles are the best way to hunt them then, but they may not be worth the energy expended.
      In a suburban or built-up environment, you can put a rat trap right near a well stocked bird feeder and you'll be lunching on squirrel before too long! ๐Ÿ™‚

      BTW – don't forget to tether your traps – regardless of what you use – otherwise you may lose your trap as well as your quarry.

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    • also you might want to think about barter items like TOBACCO! the kind you roll yourself. it's gonna be worth it's weight in gold…it's light,cheap and some ppl will give up their first born to have a smoke!just something to think about…

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    • Rat traps wont kill squirrels most of the time. A friend of mine lost his job a few years back and rather than selling his snakes or let them starve, decided to catch squirrels to feed them. He quickly found out that the rat traps he was using only trap the squirrels, and they struggle their way out within seconds. But the rat trap works great in conjunction with other, less sophisticated techniques. So find your squirrels, place some food scraps and a rat trap and wait… with a hammer.

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    • Monty,

      haha yes good point. I thought about putting toilet paper on the list but I guess I was hoping that's not something people will forget, but I suppose it might be.

      Soap should definitely be on the list

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    • Right now I prefer a small chest rig if I'm running low profile. I've worn this rig under my jacket and it works just as well: http://flic.kr/p/6ZgCua
      That would be in conjunction with a backpack, but I plan on moving through urban areas using vehicles and buildings; a large ALICE rig would not suit my needs.

      The beauty of the MOLLE panel is how configurable it is. Here is the same panel in a E&E load out: http://flic.kr/p/6XyX1c I've driven around in my vehicle with that under my softshell with no issues.

      With all these configurations my pistol is on my belt with reloads on my weak side, like I always train. All survival preps are stored in a MOLLE "3 Day" pack, which can also be configured with pouches to suit the situation. I use the same pack for hunting so I'm used how it carries.

      To me, mission drives gear; am I bugging in, bugging out, doing security, recon? One setup will not fit all these jobs.

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  4. Thin and thick fish line for sewing, trip wires, and of course fishing (fishing isn't ideal for urban survival though).

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    • Actually, you don't need a can opener. All you need is an abrasive surface and about 5 minutes. Grind the lid of the can into the surface and after a while you can pop it off. I learned the from "When All Hell Breaks Loose".

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    • Guess you forgot about the knives in one's BOB pack. Most of the 'survival type' of knives have a slot to attach sheath and it becomes a can opener. Since weight is always a factor, even a good small pocket knife will open most of the flimsy aluminum cans on the shelves today and will do a fine job on old steel as well. Small pocket knife is lighter than a usefull can opener.

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  5. As anyone on the internet will tell you, burning ping-pong balls will yield a fair amount of black smoke. This can be used as some signaling. I suggest packing four or five of them, cut in half so you can stack them. Not exactly as good as something like a tire, but it could save your life.

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    • If you remember from "The Great Escape", they ground up the ping pong balls into powder and had them in a can with a fuse. Maybe it could be a good smoke grenade or something if mixed right. Not sure if it really works or not though. Might be a good science project.

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  6. Rabbit,

    Great idea on the window protection and weather proofing. I've used those things before and they do help a lot.

    One thing though, the plastic sheets that cover the windows to stop airflow have to be "sealed" on to the window and that usually involves a blow dry or other form or electric heating.

    You would have to find some other way to seal them on, or do it before you lost power. (Which is a good idea anyway because it saves electricity/gas in regular times.

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    • Bogeyd,

      I agree Salt is definitely a big "Must Have"

      I didn't include it on this list because the article is about things people should be stocking that they probably forgot. Hopefully Salt is something most people will remember.

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    • Sea salt is best for preserving meat.
      Walmart has Hain's brand, 26 oz. (1 lb. 10 oz.) for $1.38.
      I buy 3 – 4 containers and pack them in sterilized 2 liter soda bottles.

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  7. Consider adding some bicycles and parts to the list. They are cheaper n dirt on craigslist.

    If fuel is not an option anymore, pedal power will beat foot power.

    A trike with a large basket or a home made bike trailer out of bike parts will be invaluable for moving goods or scavenging. OR if you need to bug out with your goods and have no fuel.

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    • Davemon,

      Good call on the bike parts. Being a biker myself I have enough stuff laying around the garage to build several bikes, so I didn't really think about that is regular prep gear but you make a good point.

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  8. Add vinegar to the list – VERY useful stuff!
    Cooking, cleaning, makes your reloading brass shiny.

    Sugar. Wheat, oats, other grains in their whole form. They store a LOT longer than processed foods.

    Feminie products make great bandages…….

    Basic hand tools. After TSHTF, the Handyman will be in great demand!

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  9. I keep a small SAK, and a Bic lighter in my wallet. The knife has a can opener on it, I would rather carry a multi-use item like a swiss army knife in my wallet than an individualized item that takes up the same amount of space. In case youre interested there is a pretty cool concept about a wallet survival kit here http://donrearic.com/riskwallet.html

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  10. Add vinegar to the list – VERY useful stuff!
    Cooking, cleaning, makes your reloading brass shiny.

    Sugar. Wheat, oats, other grains in their whole form. They store a LOT longer than processed foods.

    Feminie products make great bandages…….

    Basic hand tools. After TSHTF, the Handyman will be in great demand!

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  11. @ Josh

    Agreed. I would have to say that is actually my favorite on this list.

    I've never actually tried to use a 9V and steel wool until the battery went dead but I imagine it would take quite a few times.

    However, it does have it's drawbacks. Mainly, batteries are susceptible to cold weather.

    @Caine,

    When I first read your comment I thought you were just going to say ignite the powder.

    I've honestly never thought of just firing the primer, I've have to try that one. I wonder if it has any ill effects on your gun/barrel?

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    • If you have never seen one burn, I highly recommend looking up "ping pong ball smoke bombs" on youtube. Even if only for entertainment….

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  12. If using a butt pack, "H-harness" rides much better than a "Y-harness"

    Nothing screams prepper/militia more than showing up with a full LBE, so you may want to consider that if you are trying to keep a low profile.

    Military canteens are OK, but you may want to expand your horizons a bit – these guys are great (they also have cool canteen-cup cooking gear and other "nice-to-haves") http://www.canteenshop.com/id31.html

    I like your mag holders – you may want to consider a "dump pouch" too – lots of room in there.

    I also noticed no backup backup firestarter – like a ferro rod, striker, or fire piston or anything. I guess you could always make a friction fire – lots of work though.

    Great post – most people think you can only use a backpack!

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    • any oil will do the trick to kill the bug. The irrigation bulb is known as a booger-buster, or goober-gitter in the south, LOL. If the bug is not stuck in earwax or you are opposed to anything like oil or irrigation bulbs in your ear… usually a dark room, flashlight and a little patience will do the trick of leading the little bugger out.

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  13. Hey Lucas,

    Out of curiosity, do you have a concealed carry permit and do you carry when you are allowed to? Due to my job, I am in the somewhat unique position of being able to carry my duty weapon(s) just about anywhere I go. The only real exceptions to that rule are military bases and airports/ports. For me, that means my BOB will be about 10 lbs lighter, since I usually carry my duty weapon +2 extra magazines on me at all times. My primary vehicle and work vehicle have extra magazines in them as well, as I spend a substantial amount of time in a car. Therefore, if I need to include more water, first aide supplies, etc I have more room.

    The concealed carry weapons (CCW) laws in NC restrict you from carrying in a lot of locations people are likely to go on their daily basis. Any mall, gas station, movie theater, or restaurant that serves alcoholic beverages are off-limits for civillians exercising their CCW rights. There are other locations on this as well.

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  14. Hydrogen peroxide. Mix equal parts water and peroxide to clean wounds. A few drops in water and gargled can help a sore throat and mouth wounds.

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    • Rinse wounds with iodine, betadine, clean or sterile/boiled water. Hydrogen peroxide has been shown to cause underlying tissue damage (amazing that we only figured that out a few years ago after using it forever). We don't even stock the stuff on the floors at the hospital anymore.

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    • Yes and bicarb is the best thing I have found to get rid of indigestion, Better than anything commercially a ailable, must put a teaspoon in a glass of water and stir.

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    • I'd suggest loading and test firing real firearms (pistols, AR-15s, shotguns) with dummy rounds one handed. There are techniques to do so but for some weapon systems (AR-15), it's a complex operation. A GLOCK with good sights, in comparison, can be racked against you pants leg and loaded that easy.

      I think in the film they were firing pistol grip shotguns one handed; not impossible, but not pleasant, easy, or a best practice.

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  15. Bailing wire? or Safety wire w/safety wire pliars……..

    Dental floss? (waxed) Works for teeth. Also sewing repair…. sails, clothing etc. A lot stronger than thread/string and it can withstand the elements.

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  16. Booze? Musical instruments? DEODORANT?!? Is this a survivalist scenario or a sleepover with the girlfriends? Might as well bring a teddy bear to cry yourself to sleep with. While some ninnies are careful to keep themselves fresh-smelling, mixing cosmos, and strumming their ukeleles, I will be using that extra space to pack spare nun-chuks because I may bust the first pair on some sucker's dome . Peace out.

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  17. Make sure you keep a months supply of any meds that are prescription in advance. That is a minimum. My Dr. gives me a three month supply in advance and I work from oldest to newest. Hope you never have to use them, but have them if you need them.

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  18. Unfortunately, cooking oil doesn't have a long shelf life. In fact, it can go rancid before it smells that way. You can try and extend the shelf life by storing it in a dark place, but even then, you're looking at just a little over a year. One option is coconut oil, which has a longer shelf life, or vacuum packing shortening. Properly packed, it will store indefinitely.

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    • That's good to know on the coconut oil. One thing my family does is use from our supplies through the week,when we buy groceries it goes to the back of the supply cabinet.Always first in first out. When we can afford to we buy extra food,etc., and it goes into the cache as well.

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    • Crisco, regular or butter flavor. The factory says 2 years unopened and 1 year opened. I think that's the lawyers talking. I have used some fairly old product and suffered no ill effects. I am counting on being right about it because that's what is in the stash.

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  19. a canoe, you can travel across much of the US and Canada, carry a lot of stuff. Dutch oven can cook like a regular stove: fry bake stew boil.
    If you can stay put: barley, wheat even a small plot can keep you well fed.
    With barley and a small still you can have fuel grade alcohol and eat the "left over" barley

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  20. Bandages could be added to the list. I recently read a non-fiction book about WWII in Poland, and there was an extreme shortage of bandages.

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  21. If society was to break down. It's gpnna be a dirty world. Alot of people will die of infections. So anti-biotic cream to treat cuts ,and pills for the flu and such should be at the top of your list. Dont forget clean bandages.
    For entertainment purposes , A laptop , extra battery and a solar battery charger. Back up your movies, music ,games to a external hard drive .

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  22. I agree with the above about Baking Soda. More for if you're sheltering-in than on the move, at least in quantity.
    I would add distilled white vinegar. Not just so you can make bubbly volcanoes for amusement, but also good for cleaning and as an anti-fungal treatment (diluted or full strength, just be sure to rinse it off quickly if so).
    Isopropyl/Rubbing alcohol. Disinfectant and cooking fuel (altho it burns a little dirty, it's better than putting a flame to your vodka) in a pop-can stove.

    This list is tricky. Some of the suggestions are great, but some, as noted, are things you should already have a supply of.

    p.s. For the purposes of this website, I'm changing my moniker from "Surfing Jerry" to "Surving Jerry." ๐Ÿ™‚

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  23. Raisins.
    What a strange item to stock up on.

    Super-long shelf-life (you can pretty much ignore the date on the package).
    Cheap.
    Good quantities of fiber and potassium, plus sugar.

    Fresh fruits, and especially fruits that can be easily transported will probably be hard to come by. Vegetables, too, but you do stand a chance of being able to forage for some leafy greens.

    After living on survival food for 3 days (MREs, energy bars) and likely other crappy food (from a dietary/nutritional standpoint) you'll need some good ole fiber so you can make use of your stockpiled toilet paper.

    Potassium is very important as an electrolyte to go with all of that sodium you'll be ingesting with your MREs (so many are around 40% sodium RDA or more) and canned foods and all of the strenuous physical activities that go with surviving. Raisins will be much easier to tote than bottles of Gatorade.
    Sure, you can eat a banana, if you're on Gilligan's Island, but you probably aren't. I'm not a doctor, but my understanding is that it's not that we (Americans/Westerners) take in too much salt/sodium, it's that we don't take in enough Potassium.

    To boot, they have a good quantity of sugar for calories and quick energy. Kids usually like 'em, too, if that's a concern of yours.

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  24. you will never have enough of matches, bar-b-que lighters,or cigareette lighters, or battries chargers, solar,flints, lighter fluid, for trade or use stock cigarettes , soda, candy, booze/wine/beer people will kill for these items , than have can soups, beef stews, heat and eat in the can , stock-up on sales of what you will eat , even if for security reasons you must eat cold , also stock can fruit you like , eat cold if must, even spam on crackers , with jam starts looking good !! no smoke is safe as no telling others you are eating …….

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  25. Did I see "birth control" on the updated list? Isn't this covered by the condoms in the bug out bag (usually used for transporting water). Never mind………..

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  26. FYI – Superglue is water soluble!! Usless stuff outside! Instead, use the two part epoxy called Devcon or equivilent I pick up at Harbor Freight for a little over $2. Easy to mix in small quantities, cleans with isopropyl, and holds up fairly well in heat & cold. We use it to dop rocks to sticks and water polish, fabricate. Another trick for Devcon removal, take a lighter flame to it and it looses it's adhesion & turns rubbery; rocks fall off no harm. Thanks for a great site, lots of usefull info.

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  27. One thing I haven't seen mentioned very much if at all – Carrabeaners. The real ones that support alot of weight. Usefull in any number of situations if you need to support any heavy objects, lift any objects to cumbersome to wrap your arms around, or need a quick release at the end of a rope. I'm sure you all could suggest other uses. I just think they will provide good use.

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  28. FYI – Superglue is water soluble!! Usless stuff outside! Instead, use the two part epoxy called Devcon or equivilent I pick up at Harbor Freight for a little over $2. Easy to mix in small quantities, cleans with isopropyl, and holds up fairly well in heat & cold. We use it to dop rocks to sticks and water polish, fabricate. Another trick for Devcon removal, take a lighter flame to it and it looses it's adhesion & turns rubbery; rocks fall off no harm. Thanks for a great site, lots of usefull info.

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  29. Squincher's single packs, they are small, lightweight and you can carry several month's supply in a gallon bag. better than gatoraid. Also for defence and hunting a crossbow and arrows. I didn't see iodine on the list, not only is it good to clean injuries, in a pinch you can use it to purifiy drinking water.

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  30. I'm surprised no one has mentioned Vegetable Seeds. You never know how long you're going to be stuck, food supplies run out, the best option is to be able to grow your own. I recommend root vegetables and greens. Carrots, beets, radishes, kale, chard, mustards, and lettuces. Other vegetables are fine too, but generally take longer seasons to grow.

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  31. antidisab, I had a bug in my ear once, it'll drive you nuts! I put rubbing alcohole in it but I was fixing to pur a Coca-Cola in there to bubble it out, any liquid that doesn't hurt you would probably work but a small bug sure can drive you batty!

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  32. Condoms. When there's no TV, you can't waste candles or flashlight batteries to just read a book, and it's dark out 16 hours out of every 24… 'nuff said….

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  33. Yes, I've seen them at Lowe's & HomeDepot. The thing I've not done is test any of them for weight bearing stress tests. One thing to remember about survival gear, one can't take it back if it breaks and with climbing carabineers, they are already tested and rated for weight bearing. Better to probably get a few of both.

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  34. It may not all fit into a bug out bag.. but if you're able to stow away somewhere when the SHTF… how are you going to cook without a pot, pan, spoon…? It's all good if you're staying in a house, but if you're "bugging out" you might need a mobile cook set.

    Maybe organize your list out into sections: Medical, Kitchen, children/elderly, dog stuff, Handy tools..etc

    but if it's for a bug out bag or long term, girls may want to think of a diva cup.. (sorry guys) the diva cup is a long wear cup and it's totally reusable.. rinse, reuse. simple. so… no need to rely on a personal storage of lady products. <a href="http://www.divacup.com” target=”_blank”>www.divacup.com

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  35. MUST HAVE…..KEROSENE!!!! Gets rid if lice completely…trust me I'm a hairstylist and I have done it before. Used the Ridd twice and it didn't work. Kerosene once…gone! Be very careful not to have any flammables around. I just poured the kerosene into a hair color bottle. completely saturate the hair. try to move quickly. You can use the tip of the applicator bottle to separate the hair. Make sure you only leave it on for !0 minutes. You don't want chemical burns. After rinsing with cool water…shampoo twice and use conditioner. If you leave the conditioner on your scalp and hair, and wrap the hair in a plastic bag for about an hour…it acts as a deep conditioning treatment. The kerosene will dry the scalp.

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  36. MUST HAVE…..KEROSENE!!!! Gets rid if lice completely…trust me I'm a hairstylist and I have done it before. Used the Ridd twice and it didn't work. Kerosene once…gone! Be very careful not to have any flammables around. I just poured the kerosene into a hair color bottle. completely saturate the hair. try to move quickly. You can use the tip of the applicator bottle to separate the hair. Make sure you only leave it on for !0 minutes. You don't want chemical burns. After rinsing with cool water…shampoo twice and use conditioner. If you leave the conditioner on your scalp and hair, and wrap the hair in a plastic bag for about an hour…it acts as a deep conditioning treatment. The kerosene will dry the scalp.

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  37. As long as we're packing everything but the kitchen sink, I would suggest a magnifying glass. They're cheap and have lots of uses. I would also second the recommendation for hydrogen peroxide. I use it around the house on a daily basis. Small spray bottles work great for sterilizing toothbrushes, eating utensils, etc. Great site!

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  38. As long as we're packing everything but the kitchen sink, I would suggest a magnifying glass. They're cheap and have lots of uses. I would also second the recommendation for hydrogen peroxide. I use it around the house on a daily basis. Small spray bottles work great for sterilizing toothbrushes, eating utensils, etc. Great site!

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  39. One thing I have for the stay put situation that I did not see mentioned is a smoker that will work using charcoal or wood. It can be a great way to preserve food for longer term storage than simply cooking it and also adds some great flavor if done right (sorry it's the chef comin' out!).

    If you are stating put another good idea is to have some common things that most folks will want but won't have access to, can be very handy for trade, I have tobacoo seeds (which will grow great here in VA but not everywhere) and alcohol, I have all the equipment needed to assemble a still. you can make almost anything that is organic into shine!

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  40. One thing I have for the stay put situation that I did not see mentioned is a smoker that will work using charcoal or wood. It can be a great way to preserve food for longer term storage than simply cooking it and also adds some great flavor if done right (sorry it's the chef comin' out!).

    If you are stating put another good idea is to have some common things that most folks will want but won't have access to, can be very handy for trade, I have tobacoo seeds (which will grow great here in VA but not everywhere) and alcohol, I have all the equipment needed to assemble a still. you can make almost anything that is organic into shine!

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  41. Many of you probably know this already, as I'm knew to the survival game, but plain brillo pads no soap. I watched a guy on t.v. pull one of these apart then run it across a large flash light battery and it sparked and caught fire. It was used for starting a fire when there were no matches. I was amazed!

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  42. Another common thing in my garage that many might want to consider, Amonium Nitrate, works great on the lawn (gives it a quick burst of bright green over a couple days), can be used to boost production in a garden and IF you know how (NOT ADVOCATING IT IN ANY WAY!!!!) can be made into an improvised explosive. AGAIN….. DO NOT TRY IT YOU CAN REALLY HURT SOMEBODY/YOURSELF!!!!! Stockpile of gasoline/deisil/kerosene…. stuff has more uses than just running a motor!

    Better and more versitile than the baby powder/Gold Bond is a product called "monkey butt", funny name seriously useful! I would also put clotrimazole on there (you can pick it up at the dollar tree). A fungal infection like athletes foot can make life miserable, I learned that living in central America!

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  43. Said it before, fish baskets and snares= easy protein! learn that all varmits are made out of meat and no meat is born in a square plastic tray! Y'can store lots of carbs and beans/corn to make protein but some real meat sho does flaver the rice! In some parts O' the South if it runs across the yard they'll put it into a pot or gumbo it.

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  44. I think I would build me some blast blanket's to cover the fuel with; so it don't go bomb! a stray anything like a bullet one spark at the wrong time when tshtf !
    Sorry but I have seen shit start going bad much faster than most people think it can happen !Most policedepartments try very hard but are allready way underpersoned lol so when it happens it comes faster then you ever would think it would here and now!

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    • That's the great thing about using ammonium nitrate for your yard/garden. Because it is an oxidizer, it won't "go boom" as you said, with impact, it will accelerate a flame. I'm not gonna say how you can make it "go boom", I found out by accident when I worked for a landscaping company in high school. It's not as easy as you would think, say compared to gasoline or black powder.

      The fuel itself, at least around here is kept in 55gal drums, sealed, in a concrete shed with a heavy 3 layer corigated steel roof, it would take a lot to get to it!

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  45. The fact is that in your travals if you have to bug out you will find lot's of descraded goods. That people in there hast will drop or just trow away because it was to heavy ! So if you don't have it never give up looking and you may find lot's that you or somone else can use !
    That is if you have a way to haul it !

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  46. Hard tack civil war hard tack you can make yourself with a little water and wheat flour and some salt bake 3 times too dry ! last a long tine in storage and is good in soup!

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  47. maybe a couple of small funnels light weight and several uses. could alsi just make one out of a discarded plastic bottle depends on what you are using it for

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  48. Good call on the coconut oil, I forgot about it and there are canned versions that might have a longer shelf life than the typical jars you find it in.

    I found canned butter and canned ghee, both of which supposedly have a 2 or 5 year shelf life according to the packaging (don't remember 100% which). However canned goods have the potential to last almost indefinitely if packed and stored properly. I haven't tried either yet and am looking for individual cans (rather than an entire case), so I can have my family try it. The butter is "Red Feather" brand, might be something to consider for your stocks.

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  49. A lot of great ideas, one of the greatest things ever created are baby wipes. As an Iraq and Afghanistan war vet, these wipes come in handy. You do not have to utilize your water supply and still can be clean. The unscented kind are best in survival, you don’t want to smell pretty if trying to be concealed.

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  50. Those usually don't the blow dryer for 'sealing'. The adhesive does a good job. Usually, blow drying is to shrink to the plastic. Makes it smooth and tight so you don't see or hear it moving with the drafts. Mostly that's for asthetics. And if you do need heat to seal the adhesive, then you could just warm any metal tool up in fire (careful, not too hot), and run it directly over the area. Might take some testing on what would melt the plastic and what would work.

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  51. Pain relievers, tampons, pads.Eyeglass repair kit with the little skrews and magnifier.Extra eyglasses even your old prescription will be better than nothing. You can buy temporary filling kits for your teeth, any dental supplies. Condoms.Pet food.

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    • condoms over birth control. this is because they can help prevent future medical problems. the pill and other methods of birth controll offer nothing to prevent the transfer of disease. if the bubble does go up for an extended period of time an std could quickly develop into a death sentence and be spread quickly into small developing pockets of people…

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  52. JJJ – when TSHTF it may turn into a scenario more like "The Walton's" (a depression) versus "Mad Max" or "Red Dawn".

    I sure hope it is more like the Walton's, where I need my gardening, hunting and crafts skills more than my "Rambo" skills.
    That said I own more than one AR and others and plenty of reloading supplies!

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  53. In North America, I think willow bushes or trees are available in most areas. Willow is the origin aspirin, though ibuprofin would be best to have on hand for children & teens.

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  54. For those on the move, an old fashioned wind up watch – tell time, use as a compass, or start fires with the crystal – should be added to the list.
    For those who stay in one place, don't bother using up garden space & energy on greens. Instead learn what grows wild in your area that is edible. You'd be surprised. I counted 6 edible greens in my 25'x25' weedy back yard last summer – all growing well on terrible ground, without any fertilizer. Bleach is simply diluted lye (which is made from hardwood ashes) & water so there's no need to over stock on that item or on soap if you have a source for animal fat which is mixed with the lye to make soft soap. Vinegar is simply fruit juice that has been allowed to ferment past the drinkable alcohol stage.
    Face it, if we're up against SHTF in an extended time frame (lifetimes), your not going to be able to stock enough of anything. Even for more limited spans, its wisest to know how to make the basic necessities & I don't mean solar batteries for your computer. Know how to make a simple snare, the basics of bow & arrow manufacture, how to make a loom & spinning wheel. Be able to recognize growing things as food & medicines & how to preserve food is primary. Personally, the thing I would really stock up on big time is TP. I can make regular paper but how the hell do they make soft toilet paper?
    PS. Buying a smoker is a waste of money when any enclosed space that can safely contain a fire & a rack of some sort is all that's necessary. Invest in things that CAN'T be home made like those bicycle parts or salt if you're not near an ocean.
    2011-02-24

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  55. There 3 specific things a human body MUST have other than food in general: water, fat, and SALT. Unless you live near an ocean or know of a salt deposit near you, its best to have it on hand. Food can be preserved without it. The Roman Cohorts were paid with salt, it was that valuable.

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  56. Bleach is a solution of chlorine and water. Very useful forl disinfecting water. Lye is caustic soda chemical composition NaOH. It has no Cl (Chlorine). It is high ph but it is not a disinfectant per se. It is not a substitute for bleach. If you want bleach in solid form buy pool tablets. Add water. The tablets store a long time in the original sealed container.

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  57. Shoelaces, I think, are missing. Not only are they useful, but it is hard to use a boot that flops off because it has no laces.

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  58. Make sure to get both waxed and unwaxed variety as they have different uses. Waxed can be used for making exceptional bow strings

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  59. If you plan on making fuel from barley you'll need lots of sugar about 9lbs to 6 gallons fuel, some active dry yeast two carboys a vapor trap something you can use as a still that will funel the steam into a copper pipe to cool another carboy to catch the distilled alcohol.

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  60. Look, I'm no survival expert, but the sheer volume of "useful" suggestions is just laughable. Take a look at the realtistic events to use a bugout bag; 1. Natural disaster, 2. Manmade disaster, 3. Civil unrest. Unrealistic events; 1. Apocalypse (Nuclear, Zombie, Biological), 2. Government collapse, 3. Foreign invasion, 4. Alien invasion. You all seem to be planning for the unrealistic option, like everythings going to collapse into anarchy overnight and we'll be living scenes out of 'The Postman'. Every realistic thing is short term and isolated, so you're just vacating a area and then it's just wait (probably at a shelter) and return home. Hell, you'll probably have your car.

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    • Games? Laptop? Washboard? What the hell? My time spent with the Marines only proves that all of that is garbage and mostly useless weight. Wash your clothes against rocks you lazy ****. If you're in that deep, you won't need something to keep you entertained like a book. For all of you with the trade ideas and misc crap to add, assuming we suddenly reduce the population to 1/3rd, there'll be a whole lot of market saturation, so few people will be found wanting. Why pack nuts and bolts when you can just rat **** it from something else? Why pack cast iron pots and cookware? Mexicans cook out of old metal hub caps in a pinch.

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      • Want a reality check? Imagine you were in Japan when the tsunami struck and SOMEHOW you managed to survive and all your mountain of crap remains. G.O.O.D. You're not going to be hunting rats in the mountains and shooting roving bands of rapists and murders. You'll be keeping yourself in better shape then everyone else by being better prepared while you all hoof it to a shelter. There you'll wait, slightly more comfortable than everyone else, to go home and rebuild your life. That's it. Don't like that? Transplant yourself into Hurricane Katrina, the '94 LA quake, or the Iowa Flood '08. Pack real, then pack unreal.

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  61. Before all of you go pouring bleach into drinking water, I STRONGLY suggest you look up bleach:water ratios. A solution of 1:10 for example is the standard to dissinfect soiled hospital equipment. A SINGLE drop of bleach is put into a canteen of PALATABLE water. I'm just waiting for all of you to try this at home and end up with the runs and dehydration. And don't listen to this guy, if you incorrectly prepare pool chlorine tablets, they explode. And if you survive that, enjoy your chlorine gas destroyed lungs.

    IF YOU ARE GOING TO POST INFORMATION, MAKE SURE YOU KNOW WHAT THE HELL YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT FIRST.
    Service announcement provided by your not-so-friendly neighborhood Corpsman.

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  62. They have to be heirloom seeds and not the run of the mill hybrids or you'll run out of seeds after planting your first set of seeds. Planting food plots in certain areas would be decent. These will keep growing year after year and they also draw animals in so you'll have that steak to go with your baked potato or other meat to mix into a savory stew. Asparagus for 1 takes about 5 years to mature into a harvestable crop, so planting now is the best hope to have it later. You'll also get several cuttings a year, just stop cutting around the 4th of July and you'll have food the following year also.

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  63. Corn starch also makes a good blood clotting agent. Superglue in a survival situation is better than stitches. It's being widely used in hospitals now in place of sutures and staples.

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  64. FMF Corpman,

    I find it pretty funny too. Prepare for short term situations. This TEOTWAWKI crap is rediculous. Short of something like a planet killing meteor I think most folks will do just fine considering SHTF situations are short duration and are of limited scope. Don't think so? Try a few thousand years of recorded history. That alone will persuade most reasonable folks to plan for a short evacuation or bug in plan. Most situations can be covered with less than 1 week of supplies here in the USA before help arrives if you bug in. It's also enough if you decide to bug out to an unaffected area. Me? I have enough for 1 month and I consider myself paranoid. The rest of you are simply delusional.

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  65. here in the south where it wet, and soggy at times, its good to get some anti fungal butt creme to prevent or cure swamp ass (aka the winkles) it is messy, yes, but it beats a blistered butt any day

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  66. Also I keep some type of petro jelly, soaking cottonballs in this is a great fire starter, I also try to keep about five tampons in my bag. One of my friends was in iraq and they kept them in there bags for gunshot or puncture wounds.

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  67. i disagree on the feminine product being used as a bandage, it absorbs blood, you want something that will keep your blood next to the skin to encourage clotting. A maxi pad will keep sucking blood from the wound until the pad is full.

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  68. i would bring a litter of olive oil virgin, you can use it for many this including to bath and for a anti-biotic.

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  69. Your vices will gnaw at you in the wild… and you aren't the only one… That is to say, the upper hand in bartering goes to those with porn, alcohol, tobacco etc. Maybe you didn't want to hear that but you know it's true…

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  70. u can go ahead and use those nun-chucks all u want. jus remeber my machete reaches out further and will kill u faster. And as 4 the deodorant, u can hide better from looters smelling nice as opposed to the classic garlic/onion BO smell. think about it.

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  71. wat's the use anyways? unless u get like magnum XXL condoms ur holding very little water. and wat good is sex during SHTF anyways? Morale booster perhaps? i just see it as another distraction from time and energy you could have used to do somethign more constructive

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  72. Clear plastic painters drop cloth. VERY cheap, and very big. Can be used as shelter (roof and floor). Can also be used as a water stil.

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  73. Coconut oil will keep for at leasta couple of years and Ghee can keep for a decade or more if made correctly. Vegitable oil is extrordinarily bad for your health anyway.

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  74. Yeah, and then all of this stuff breaks down and runs out. Then what? I'd like to learn how to make clothing from animal hide, there is no better winter boot on the planet than a moose hide muckluck. I would say learning how to live without the use of any of this stuff would better prepare you for teotwawki. There are plenty of natural medicines that work just fine, you can use animal sinew for thread and bow strings, plenty of natural ways to preserve food with out using anything that's listed on this site. Everything on this site is more than great, but what about when it all runs out and you can run down to wal-mart for supplies?

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  75. Brillo pads. Catches fire quickly, and has other cleaning uses..ect. Other then that I think the ideas here are for a lot of different scenarios.

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  76. Well, if everything worked exactly how we wanted there probably wouldn't be a situation in which to use this stuff in the first place. Guess what, it doesn't. In no real survival situation would it be plausible to have all of this stuff on deck. Stick to the basics and pack as lightly as possible while still covering the basic human needs, but having multiple coolers to keep my comfort food and liquor in is a bit excessive.

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  77. kerosene may work but becomes like vaseline when you try to wash it out… I know from experience. Powdered sulphur, mixed w/ some type of oil (mayonnaise) applied and left on for some hrs will suffocate them. As will any type of oil. You just have to repeat it to kill the new hatchlings in time…. look it up online, there are many sites with instructions. My grandfather said they used to use fresh cow pies plastered to the scalp and wrapped with rags….. I would prefer the oil to manure but I guess if you're desperate……

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    • Hell, I wouldn't treat them at all, I would consider it a food source! BRING ON THE LICE!!!! Probably close to a termite I'm thinking… Everyone in the fmaily could start picking through your hair and eatting the little buggers, kind of like monkeys do…

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  78. and get the bigger sizes too, they work like police zip cuffs… you know… incase you might have to "apprehend" someone…

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  79. Great list, but a couple of things missing:

    1) Fishing gear. I know we can all make a basic fishing pole from a stick, a hook and some string (or floss), but a Pocket Fisherman and a few basic lures can drastically improve a dire situation.

    2) Dental floss. It has about a zillion uses, not the least of which is soucher (sp) material.

    3) Extra ammunition. If society collapses, it won't be the guy with the most gold, silver, diamonds, gasoline or even water who runs things – it'll be the guy with the most bullets. Also, the powder contained in the ammunition can be used to make basic explosives and to start fires in challenging situations.

    4) Seeds! You mention gardening implements, but not seeds from which to grow food.

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  80. If you could get your hands on some alchohol, could that be used as a bartering item if you find the right person or group of people?

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  81. +1. the body grip traps are nice. another tip would be to cut and secure 3/8" or 1/2" plywood to the bottom of the rat trap. regular rat traps wouldn't allow all of the energy from the spring to get transferred into the animal. regular traps would bounce around once its tripped. the plywood helps secure the trap to the ground and allows the majority of the energy into the critter.

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  82. apple cider vinegar also aids in hydration. Add a tablespoon to a quart of water. Ref: Self sufficient home, going green and saving money, christopher nyerges

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  83. We did this as a prank in high school all the time. You get the most smoke if you break about 2 ping pong balls to 1/2 inch pieces, wrap tin foil on it, leave just a small hole so a small corner of the plastic is out, that you can light. Once it's lit, let it burn for 2-3 seconds, then blow the flame out and observe the lots of smoke you just created for cca 30 seconds.

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  84. Well, what I would add to this list is definitely glow sticks. The thick ones that can illuminate a small room with light.
    They last a good few days, they're smokeless and easy to store and conceal. For those last three reasons they are so very much better than road flares, which I find some people store for use on emergency situations. They don't last too long and the massive amount of smoke is not only going to give you away, but if you need to go into or through a closed space like a building, you'll choke on it and not be able to see besides.

    The upside to the glow sticks is that they're cheap, safe, and clean. I don't think they can replace a good flashlight, but they are a good back up.

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  85. Medical supplies are a must – and knowledge how to use them. Large quanities are available for livestock & easy to get; everything from antibiotics, to painkillers, to gauzes & sutures; just watch the dosage.

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  86. What about solar battery charger? A lot of people say to stock batteries. But what about rechargeable batteries? I plan on getting some solar chargers because, while I could deal without most modern comforts, I would go insane without some music!

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  87. I would only disagree on the lice shampoo. Unless your keeping your hair super clean it's not really needed. Unless there are other uses for it I don't know about. I would live to know about them for my personal reference.

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  88. thank god we'll have people who'll act civilized if we lose civilization… still, he'd be good to have in the village to post for guard… downwind, of course

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  89. My husband has an army can opener he uses with great skill. (I am not quite as adept.) It's small and effective. Can probably find them at surplus stores.

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  90. 10 or 15 gal of kerosene will burn forever in lamps…plus, if you have a kerosene heater, you've got a few nights of pretty decent indoor heat. In fact, you can probably avoid indoor temps falling below freezing in many home by just burning 4 or 5 hours a night.

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  91. I prefer a 12 gauge with various loads (including buckshot) and a good SKS…you can hunt virtually anything and have some pretty decent security as well

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  92. one thing that i never see discussed in great detail but when you talk about bugging out where do you go? in N.O. LA. there was just no place to run and a few that did got shot by rogue police. my plan centers around a few neighbors who are of the same mind as i am. which is to hold what we got. granted we live out in the country and can supply many foods through farming and taking game. I guess what i'm saying is their may not be many places to run to depending on the problem.

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  93. Vaseline and cotton balls. In an emergency, 2 or 3 cotton balls thoroughly soaked in petroleum jelly will, in a controlled environment such as a hibachi, barbecue grill or some open metal container. It will burn from
    30 – 45 minutes, providing light and heat. It must be done outdoors with adequate ventilation. It can be done on a porch or under awnings. There is not too much black smoke, but a bit. If you add candle wax in the mix, it will get hotter, the wax will boil and you have intense heat. It must be monitored. The container must be one that you can put a non-flammable cover over if you need to extinguish the flames before they burn out by cutting off the oxygen to it. Once you do that, DO
    NOT lift the cover off for 5 minutes. The sudden oxygen will cause the mix to spontaneously combust explosively. Ideally you just let the mixture burn out without the candle wax. Keep baking soda and a fire extinguisher nearby just in case. Water will not work. Vaseline, candle wax and cotton balls. Cheap to buy now, impossible to get after the fact.

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  94. To FMF Corpman: Ever hear of Katrina? Wait a short time at a shelter? Interment Camp comes to mind there. And the car was gone. A bug OUt bag is for getting to a safer area or getting home, not to a "shelter.' And we can't prepare for everything, but we can prep!!! None of us know what we are actually looking at, we do think it will happen quickly. Don't be delusional, absolutely don't trust "I'm here to help you," and remember the cardinal rule: Don't ever, ever become a refugee." Yeah there is a lot of chaff on this site, also lots of good info. The good will make it, the one with guitars, games and far out ideas will be refugees or fodder. Be part of the solution not the problem!

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  95. One item that is often, no usually, overlooked as a "survival" item, is a roll of 5 or 6 mil plastic sheeting, 10'x25'. More uses than you can count, and a great barter item if the need arises. Clear is probably best, black is ok. Another item which I keep around, in fact 150 of them, is a steel trap. Various sizes, they work 24/7, are relatively innocuous, and can produce in areas that most people would think is barren. The downside, if there is one, is that a knowledge of animals and their habits and the proper use and setting of traps is required. These skills can be learned and you don't forget them. I think the list as provided, along with the 100 items that will disappear quick, is fairly complete, but I haven't really studied it in depth, yet! Great site!

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  96. Actually, depending on how long it has been, everyone could be smelling bad. So, if you smell good it will be easier to find you. Just sayin.

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  97. Get plenty of those out door solar lights, 2 will light up a room at night and they can be used to charge 2 AA batteries and Walmart had them for $2 each.

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  98. a couple of things i would add…if you want to be seen/heard, a signal mirror, strobe light or surveyors tape (bright color) and a whistle. i've searched for people for over 21 years…if only they carried this stuff! if you don't, some camo. a quality multi-tool. tweezers, a good few needles for fixing a larger cut or wound. a book on edible plants. a water proof way to carry your important documents, i.e. birth cert, passport, SS card, etc. (some day you will need to proof who you are). the rat trap idea is good…but if your not worried about weight get a steel trap or conibear trap and a book on setting traps…not hard once you get the hang of it and one can eat woodchucks, muskrats, racoons etc. learn how to make your own snares or buy some.

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  99. If you want to learn very quickly what you can't live without, hike the Appalacian Trail for a few weeks. There is no better learning tool than experience.

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  100. rat traps and an added nail or two fitted with a percussion cap can be used as an early warning device as well..you can see a few you tube vids on it.

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  101. It wouldn't hurt to have a few steers fenced up in your back yard. Then when we have another 9/11 you will be able to use the orphans you adopted from New Guinea to wrangle the steers to a
    prearranged spot in the forest. You can haul the accumulated manure to throw at whoever comes
    by to take your laptops, fresh vegetables and salt. Even though it is the most common mineral on
    earth there will be plenty of people who will want it to apply to their toilet paper. Everyone should
    make friends with trailer trash. They will be our salvation when it comes to much needed portable
    shelter. Someone had better get an emergency tractor to haul the trailer. Don't forget to store up a few tons of corn to make some fuel for the tractor.Remember the problem they had in "The
    Road Warrior." Hopefully someone you come in contact with has recorded all of the Coast to
    Coast programs that have to do with survival.

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  102. I think that a lot of these items are things which I would love to have around if I could, but which aren't exactly priorities. If I were Bugging In, I'd definitely want to keep things like games and liquor around if I could, but some of these things would take money and effort that might best be spent on keeping more water, food, and ammo in stock in stead.

    I'm choosing to stock my home and my BOV's with larger amounts of the same things I'm keeping in my BOB and going from there. As I move up, I'll add things for more people or which make group life easier. For instance, if I have to Bug Out alone, my vehicle is a dirtbike, so my gear will be my BOB, supporting items for the bike itself, and gas (NEVER forget a siphon pump).

    If I'm lucky enough that my loved ones are with me, I'm taking the Jeep, which will include more of the same supplies but which will also carry a homemade portable shower and a portable toilet. Neither of those things are necessary, but I feel that very few people will go through a disaster without losing it, so being able to take a shower in privacy and a halfway-dignified restroom break may be luxuries we can afford to carry.

    At home I may be able to afford space for things like sunscreen and baby powder, but I'd still rather keep another 1,000 rounds of ammo in the same amount of space.

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  103. I am a big Leatherman fan you can't do what we're talking about without one of those or something like it. You said hand tools but a Leatherman or some sort of multi-tool needs to be on the list

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  104. As a woman I know certain birth control medication can be used to prevent a period from occurring. The last thing I would want to worry about is Aunt Flo while I'm working my arse off to survive. And also, I would expect in this sort of scenario, that rapes probably spike since some people tend to turn into animals during a crisis. And condoms can always break.

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  105. Interesting I haven't seen any comments re: potassium iodine, in case radiation becomes an issue. Considering how quickly the price can fluctuate, it would certainly seem like something to hoard when the price is low.

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    • That's because the government tells us that they have it stockpiled and will distribute it if/when it becomes necessary, so you don't have to bother.

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  106. Keep your old cotton sheets and pillowcases after they are worn down. You can cut or tear them into strips to dress a wound. Be sure and wash them and store in a clean cool and dry area. I keep an extra set of old sheets in a pillow case, washed and ready for SHTF bandage duty. Apply an ointment if possible before tying on the bandage, to prevent pain when removing.

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  107. Heirloom varieties of seed. Mail order these. The ones in Wally World are hybrids and very susceptible to disease. Heirloom varieties are much hardier, and actually taste better. They just don't look as "pretty".

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  108. hydrogen peroxide should never be used to clean wounds… it kills healthy tissue and stops the inflammation process which is NECESSARY for healing… i know… I AM A WOUND NURSE

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  109. VASELINE VASELINE VASELINE… I CAN NOT SAY IT ENOUGH…. for a wound it will keep tissues moist and promote healing…. prevent chafing… keeps lips lubricated… keeping your skin free of cuts, lacerations and wounds is of the UTMOST importance…. also for greasing items.. such as door knobs so no one can enter… EVERYONE needs this is their stock….

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  110. SALT SUBSTITUTE…. it is made from POTASSIUM… an essential electrolyte needed for muscle contraction…. and usually found in dark green veggies… if the shtf… are we really going to have access to it…. doubtful….

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  111. Honey for sweetening drinks and foods as well as for wound care. It disinfects and promotes healing. Aloe for burns. Vegetable seeds. Miracle Grow. Bottled tomato juice can be used instead of water to cook minute rice.

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  112. I've got 5 horses, and 4 kids. My horses are training for packng, riding, pulling, whatever. People with kids need to think about how their going to move the little ones. Some dried herbs for medicinal purposes, and such are the true 'essentials'. How else was it done B.E. (Before Electricty)? The best preparations I can come up with is to take a trip back in history.

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  113. HA!!! This guy is funny and i hope he is not far from where ever I am at that time, for keeping me sane with his humor!
    Thanks Chris!

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  114. First – I don't agree that rat traps – the ordinary "Victor" kind – will kill a squirrel. I had to dispatch a squirrel that was stuck in a rat-trap last year. The bar caught it diagonally across the shoulders, and maybe it would have died eventually, but I couldn't tolerate seeing it suffer any longer.

    Second – I suggest you add a tire-plug kit. Be sure to replace the cement every so often, because it will dry out in the tube.

    Third – I also suggest you have your friendly family doctor or dentist prescribe some broad-spectrum oral antibiotics. Then store them in the freezer, which will extend the "use-by" date considerably. (When I was in school, they told us that for every reduction of 10 deg. C, a reaction slows by 50%. Now that's a generalization, but if it holds true for degradation of antibiotics, storing them in a -10 F freezer should extend the life by at least tenfold. Obviously, your results may vary.)

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  115. toilet paper definately, but trash bags and deodorant? You can be buying stuff so you won't have a lot of trasn, except I can see that they would be good for other uses: raincoat, shelter, etc. Deodorant? really?

    for cooking oil and other uses (skin emolient, lubricant, etc) and it wont' go rancid as fast as other oils might, Palm oil is a very stable oil. Coconut oil is also good, and a very stable oil, but more expensive. You can buy palm oil in 3 litre containers at a very reasonable price. It is liquid over 68 degrees, solid at cooler temps.

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  116. rat traps can also be used for defence…. drill a hole big enough to hold a 12 gage or so shell.. add a trip wire.. and puff sound alarm and pretty good deterant… just a thought.

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  117. I take it this guy has never spent more than a few days in wilds or 15 days in the box with no shower…. or had to pee with your head on the other side of a tree cause you couldnt stand the smell of yourself!…LOL

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  118. instead of either.. try Olive oil… properly sotred it will last forever.. you can even use it as a candle.. just add a floating wick to a jar of olive oil and your all set… besides olive oil is better for you than all that other stuff.

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  119. you can make a simple minnow trap useing a 2liter pop bottle to use for bait… it works great and use them all the time.

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  120. CIGARETTES!

    Look, I don't smoke, but we all know people who do. If the things cost $4 a pack now, imagine how valuable they'll be when SHTF. These people are addicts and will pay/trade just about anything to keep up the habit. If you don't believe me, watch a war movie. This is the single most valuable bartering tool, post-SHTF outside of food and water…which you will probably want to keep for yourself.

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    • I don't smoke either, but here in NYC, they cost at least $11 a pack. It's also becoming increasingly illegal to smoke in public places (no smoking in NYC Parks, for example).

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  121. In my BoB, I have added a box of Tampons. These are good to stop the bleeding of any type of wound. I also have cotton balls and vasaline. If you coat the cotton ball in the vasaline, They catch fire easy, In windy and wet conditions. I also have supplies a make a make shift heater. Take a empty metal coffee can, insert one roll of cheap toliet paper and then pour some rubbing alcohol on the TP. Let it soak for a minute. Light it. It will burn for about an hour or little more. Put out a good amount of heat. It also does not cast off much light, so it does not give your position away.

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  122. Get plenty of fish antibotics. They are the EXACT dosage for humans with no perscription and very inexpensive. Honey, it gives energy, is great for burns, eaten everyday it will keep you healthy and you can use it as medicine and to flavor anything you want sweeter.
    My soon to be released book "When the Golden Egg Cracks" offers alternative ways to
    Survive and Thrive to Prosper!

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  123. It must be nice to be a 25-35-year old guy who can use physical force to his advantage, but when you are a 70-year old grandma, certain choices are not available. Ive got my gun and ammo, food, etc, but for luxury as I bug IN, let me have my Lady Clairol.

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  124. Well, folks, after all my supplys, including gun and ammo, give this 70-year old LADY who will be bugging IN her luxury item–Lady Clairol.

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  125. Yep. Still to this day I always have them in my car or with me – when hubby & I dated he thought I was nuts when he saw me buying baby wipes – at least until the first time we went camping together ๐Ÿ™‚ A lot of habits left over from my being in the Army. Ruck is always packed and ready to go ๐Ÿ˜‰

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  126. Wow you people are nuts. I don't think many of you stand a chance from what I've read here. For survival all you need are a few things. A knife, a mercury stick, a lanyard, and a water bottle. The rest of what you need is knowledge and the right mind set, which I'll call faith. The grand design of Earth and everything on it was meant to keep us alive in harmony with everything else that's alive. Penicillin can be made from bread and any mushroom, in a damp bag for 3 days. It will be nasty, but you make a tea out of it and drink that nasty crap you'll be fine. It can also be made from boiling birch bark (one of the most common trees in the world). A lanyard is a bracelet that's a string in a coil. A mercury stick is the fastest, lightest and easiest way to start a fire, and a knife with string and a stick you've got a spear. Think light. You don't really need so much. It's good to know what to eat that's wild. Learn these plants. They're simple with 4 hours time. When surviving, keep yourself busy. There's a few rules to surviving that I'll mention. Keep yourself dry, warm, sheltered, hydrated and fed. Take your time to prevent injury. Don't panic. Panic is what causes major problems. Anyone that's irrational with patience you can ration with, but never let your guard down. You're so quick to want to kill someone, it's disturbing. I've taught survival. I'm military trained, with martials arts training, and had to fight to survive most of my life. You can have a gun and I can take you out because you're not as agile as I am and I've done it plenty of times before. You haven't. Remember, help one another out. You're stronger in a group. It's easier to help than to fight with making compromises for the benefits of everyone. Don't be prejudice of anyone or anything, like criminals in a group. They are a lot more rational and able than the average man. Remember hygiene is very important, but you don't need soap. Basic first aid. I was stabbed twice in the gut, which were kill shots, and I stitched myself back up with the pocket sewing kit in my sleeve of a bomber jacket pocket and I'm horrible at stitching. What kept me alive through all my troubles, was I didn't give up. When in doubt rock yourself in the fetal position for a few minutes. It doesn't do you any good really and it wastes time, but you find your inner strength to keep going, which is what survival is. Remember, nobody cares about you, unless a group is trying to survive together. Might as well be social about it. Try simple easy plans. Basics of camping. People that are smart know you've got better chances in a group, than by yourself. Most of you will never be the great hunter, why do you all think you're Rambo? Get real, it might keep you alive. Always take your time when walking and pay attention to the ground so you don't twist an ankle (the stupidest and most common injury). Never forget what the "Rolling Stones" said. "You can't always get what you want, but if you try sometimes, you get what you need". Now that is truly profound wisdom.

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  127. re;jjj Liquor (booze) would make a great barter item or… self deversion. Don't be so quick to judge. I'm actually thinlkinbg about setting up a still or buying some beer making equipment…

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  128. In addition a strong rat trap(s), some peanut butter, and you have inexpensive trap(s) for squirrel, etc. that could give you some incremental eats…

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  129. How about smoke bombs for defense tactics, there are plenty of videos on youtube telling you how to make them, be careful though, you do get some videos that little kid make, but there ar veryh good ones I like, and very thick smoke

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  130. Allergy pills. People get bit, stung, or have unexpected food allergies. Also, dust kicks up so bad in droughts and after tornadoes that even people who don't have allergies will have breathing problems.

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  131. A lot of people don't know white vinegar KILLS SPIDERS including the brown recluse. Put some it a spray bottle.

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  132. A good selection of seeds to grow your own food. Buckwheat is a grain that needs little water. But seeds could be hard to come by, depending on the disaster.

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  133. Until recently I had never considered losing the Info on my computer. Being a reader I have always kept a large library, however, I now have started to increase my inventory of books. I store books on almost everything: How to do, mechanics, medicine, plants, animals, Etc… The list is almost endless and other than space, the expense is almost nothing. Used bookstores, thrift stores Etc. all provide books at reasonable prices (next to nothing). Knowledge is priceless and because of our ability to purchase books for very little, nearly free! Store knowledge it is priceless!

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  134. Useful, if some of your SHTF info is pdf format.
    For the dirty world stock up on baby wipes. I made my wife laugh when I pointed out the box of hand wipe napkins at chick-fil-a (a la Book of Eli) and said "look honey, $2000 barter worth of wipes!'

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  135. For what it's worth, I spent a few months in Brooklyn NY. Squirrels were RAMPANT there, and guns of course were "illegal" to use. I actually used a rat trap to catch several squirrels that were destroying my balcony herb and vegetable garden. It does NOT kill them, at least mine never did. But it does snap around their head to stun them, and the spring will hold them firmly enough to hold them in place. They can wiggle out after a few minutes, so you can either make sure it is placed where you can hear it go off, or like I learned to do, you can drill a hole and attach string to the rat trap so that it is suspended in the air from something solid above. The dangling squirrel can not wiggle out if he is not able to get his feet onto something solid. Either way, you still have to go out there and whack him in the head with a stick or something. But yes, rat traps DO catch squirrels.

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    • As a Brooklyn Resident for 13 years, I would say that it's pigeons to squirrels 100 to 1, at least. ChefBear, got any recipes?

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  136. My employer gets items in 4 gallon food grade buckets, that when empty they throw away. I collect these buckets (with permission) to use for whatever reason. They'll store all kinds of items as well as water and the best part, they're FREE!!

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  137. I don't know if I'm on the same page as everyone else here but why not some sort of human powered electrical generator. So that you can power small devices like walkie talkies and such?

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  138. A lot of really good ideas but think about this, just make the list, very light and easy to pack. Three or four days after TSHF when everyone and his brothers are killing each other over at the grocery store just stop in to the local hardware and pickup what you need, hell take two or three trips if you like. A couple of cans of beans will buy the whole damn store, if you can find anyone to give them to.
    And the Lord said " you should forgive 70 x7
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  139. I have yet to see anyone mention antibiotics. Be a damn shame to have all this crap to die of an infection from a paper cut or a bad tooth. I think most people in the Middle Ages died of disease or rotten teeth before they died of not having toilet paper or deodorant. A broad spectrum antibiotic like amoxicillin that has a practical shelf life of 5 years if kept in cool, dark environment or/and colloidal silver would work.

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  140. Penicillin isn't all that easy to make. It isn't just a matter of eating bread mold. Your arrogance is amazing. Being in a group is helpful, if everyone can find a single leader to follow and that leader is a good one. I am sure you think that is you. But when not everyone thinks you are the best choice…well, the TV show Survivor is a great lesson in group think and group cooperation. When things get tough, they eat each other.

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  141. actually they make GREAT bandages. My daughter just got MRSA, and a pad was the only bandage that could handle the output of her sore. Sure, I could have used umpty two gauze pads… but 1 pad cut into thirds worked perfect!

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  142. Someone has probably already mentioned this, but 550 cord. Not the para-cord weak stuff though, make sure it says 550 on it, that means its tested to hold up to 550 lbs. A roll of a 1000' costs about 70 bucks but can be used for anything. Also inside the outer nylon sheath are 7 individual nylon threads that can be pulled out and used for sewing, etc. It can be found at most military surplus and survival store websites.

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  143. Who are you going to signal, the mob that's going to come pillage your supplies? Get a grip man, no one is going to come to your aid…..really.

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  144. Fly Paper Ribbon would also be good to stock up on. No A/C, hot Summers, lots of flies. You can get them free with coupons too : )

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  145. If you live near people with livestock, talk to them about the bailing twine from their bales of hay. Some places bale with twine instead of wire, and you can use the twine to tie down tarps and other things.javascript:%20showLogin();

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  146. I hate to say your already dead if your packing all this . Key word being Bug OUT . If you cant hike with all of it then you dont need it during a Bugout . 1. Gun < preferably a 22 lr semi auto with 2 extra clips prefilled and a 500ct box of Bulletts , 2 Fishing reel preferably a collapsable one . 3. a custom Medical kit < a tackle box works nicely > the medical kit should have basic medical like a boat medical kit , But also include a suture kit, Bottle of alcohol and hydrogen peroxide , 1 spool of 15lb test fishing line and 1 spool of 30 or 35lb test line < preferably of the dacron type . The spools should be unopened and covered with a dark tape like duct tape . A roll of Ductape , a few tampons< for the women > and maxi pads < super absorbent > as these can be used as bandages for large wounds , Benadryl, Aspirin , Tylenol, Mydol < for women > a triple antibiotic creme , calamine lotion , tooth brush and paste , 2 foldable knives , 5-8 garbage bags , pliers , needle nose pliers , few stainless steel fishing hooks , small butane torch kit < carterizing wounds > ,

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    • Medical kit continued : 2 Bottles of vitamins , 2 water test kits , soil test kit , lighter and waterproff matches , A painkiller you can take , 2 different antibiotics 1 for viral < cipro > and 1 for internal < clindamycin > , small box of ammo for rifle and a few bulletts for the pistol as back up and 2 bars of lye soap along with a small bottle of antibacterial dish washing liquid . Make sure all of this is vacuum sealed < except the knives > and if you have more room then you can add extra stuff you feel you may need but keep in mind it ALL needs to fit in the Box .

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      • Your bugout bag : 2 pairs of loose fitting pants you can move in, 4 dark colored shirts and one khaki . 5 pair of underwear < women 9 pair of underwear as they are thinner and you will need them for hygene purposes > 6 pair of socks 1 of which should be thermal or really thick . propane canister and portable cookstove and a cooking kit with pan, cup , etc. Several packs of Ramen, Jerky and a few cans of Soupand or sketti and a few cans of creme of chicken < for the ramen > . A small package with assorted seed like corn , peas, squash and some miracle gro in a vacuum sealed bag . Bug spray , box bulletts , knife , extra clip for pistol and rifle . Jump drive or SD card with Survival info on it such as , vinegarand its uses, canning , alternative energy, basic electrical wiring, a medical enclyclopedia and pill description < need the pill description in Book for as well > Hydroponic gardening , Herbs as medicine , trapping and hunting game , etc, . you will also need a fully charged netbook with charger .

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  147. bugout bag coontinued : Women you can also add pads, tampons , creme whatever to the remainder of the room left in the bag , Men Condoms as well as powder . but make sure all of this except the knife is vacuum sealed to keep from getting wet if you have to swin or cross something wet or be out in the rain .

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  148. Definitely The DivaCup, and LunaPads (or any other MamaCloth!) For Meg, no when you wash (just like you would cloth diapers or anything else) they rinse clean and no wildlife will come to see them when you are drying them ๐Ÿ™‚

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  149. i believe hoarding rice and dried beans are long lasting and provide protein. add dried milk, evaporated milk in cans, beanie weenies, tuna in water,iodine, bleach, bleach, bleach. essential for making water safe to drink, as many mre's that you can afford. ammo. knives for butchering, forks, spoons, seeds for a garden, batteries, battery powered radio. bottled water. koolaid already sweetend. cheap, a treat for flavor. instant oatmeal. hard candy. bowls, pans for cooking, cups, coffee, tea. aspirin, antibotic ointtments. this is an interesting brain exercise. may also save a life.

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  150. Icy hot (can be used to treat headaches and migraines as well as muscle aches. Also can be used to clear sinuses. When eucalyptus is not available. We don't all live in Austraila) lol. Vics or noxzema can work as well. Not as well as icy hot though. Great for those sensitive to Asprin, Tylenol and NSAIDS.

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  151. How about a dozen Bic lighters, or so, a handful of cheap army-type can openers, and ropes, of various thicknesses (diameters). Paracord is nice …

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  152. I would keep antibiotics or know where to get them quickly. Veterinary grade will work in a pinch/emergency. They have a limited shelf life, but you gotta at least try……

    Also, I'm a big fan of keeping a lot of jam/jelly in stock. If you can get some marmalades with peel in them even better. Everyone focuses on protein and calories, but Vitamin C is so transient in our bodies and it can be hard to source when fruit season is over. We all probably remember the horror stories of scurvy on the ships a few hundred years ago. We don't need much daily, so this is an easy way to store it. Vitamin C is crucial to our health and we go downhill quickly without it.

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  153. Hard liquor- specifically- vodka, everclear & 151- can be used as a base for making all sorts of wonderfully useful medical treatments, from mouthwash to cough syrup to athlete's foot treatment, for starters. Liquor can also be useful for preserving fruit. In addition, it has definite barter value!

    One of the ways antiperspirant works is by killing/inhibiting the bacteria that likes the warm & moist environment of your axial areas (your pits and your junk). It's got a slight medical value, in addition to the fact that if you're all sorts of stinky, it's highly unlikely anyone is going to want you anywhere near them, which could be a problem if you need help of any kind or are trying to talk barter with someone, or, as Old Married Lady pointed out, if you start feeling the need for female companionship. (Though your attitude may also pose an obstacle to that one; I don't know you, so can't say for sure, but am thinking that it's a possibility just based on what you wrote.)

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  154. Cheap plastic tarps and lots of rope can be real handy too. These can be used as temporary shelters, covers to keep firewood dry, cover broken windows, making stretchers and litters, and many other things. Very cheap and VERY handy!

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  155. One can multiply the life of sensitive cooking oils by preserving them with BHT. You can easily store BHT to use later for food oils you press at home. Make sure you acquire food grade BHT not the industrial grade used to preserve plastics and gasoline.
    If you research BHT you will find multiple claims that it is a strong anti-viral and multiple warnings that it may cause cancer. The cancer threat is based on huge test doses given to rats and mice. The anti viral claim is based on actual people experimenting on themselves and on a few doctors actually prescrbing BHT. Both are likely to be correct at the respective doses, but no study has been conducted in humans.

    Bottom line: If you use BHT as approved to preserve food oil it will work. You might get some anti-viral effect. Rancid oils are much more likely to cause cancer that the small amount of food grade BHT needed to preserve your cooking oil.

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  156. Fully stocked med kit, MREs, allergy meds, anti inflammatories, water water water!!! Blankets, pillows, sheets… Ugh I have more but I can't think right now.

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  157. Ok, I am sure it's good to be both omniscient and omnipotent, but what do your kids/wife/elderly parents do when you're not on the spot, and they get a cut, a cold, it's raining, you get sick, etc. I'd rather have this stuff, and learn to how to make the most of it – in *every possible imagined scenario* than rely solely on my wits and pure luck that I'll stumble onto these things – when I need them. After a short time, life will be more than fat, carbs, protein, salt and water.

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  158. It will be the one thing that will make you feel human, the one thing that will bring intimacy . You should try it sometime.

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  159. Also there is a real pervasiveness of GMO in those non-heirloom seed varieties (some intentional, some not). You'll want to stay away from raising "Pharm Foods"!

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  160. I use a simple lightly-scented bar soap for all washing purposes. Very little water weight, and can be used on face, body, hair, shaving (and supposedly as a deodorant, though I haven't tried that).

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  161. The breast and thighs are the only parts worth cooking. Salt and pepper, place in a pan with a peach or apricot half on each segment and cook low and slow. Better without skin, but can get dry if overdone.

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  162. Heating the film only shrinks it to take out wrinkles. I never heat mine when I do my windows as it's purely for aesthetics and it makes the plastic more vulnerable to tearing. Be more precise in applying the plastic if you wish a flawless view thru it. You'll likely use less that way also.

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  163. Guys who don't smell at all, or smell like something naturally in the environment get a chance at shooting game. When the chips are down I'm betting the better provider will do just fine with the ladies. I've spent weeks in the woods with no soap or deodorant and didn't reek. Water takes care of most skin oils and sweat and baking soda freshens without driving critters away. Soda and vinegar will also clean clothes. A good alfalfa rub down makes the deer "look" for you and is great after a sauna.

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  164. If I had to bug out with only one thing it would be the best quality knife I could buy longer than 5 in. Preferably a Gerber. If I could have one more thing, it would be a good sharpening stone for my Gerber. This is the best way to think of survival, building up from the barest "must have" and adding things in order of usefulness. The "must haves" should also be stored separately from the "wants" so that you don't mix them up if you have to leave fast. They should be divided up between family members in backpacks so that one person isn't the only one carrying things vital to others. You may not even have the luxury of a vehicle in the worst case and you won't get far carrying boxes.

    Be sure that good boots and plenty of natural material socks are on the short list. If you're going to get an infection it will likely happen in your feet, especially if your boots don't fit, leak, or are made of cheap plastic. Keeping the feet dry is vital to surviving in the long haul.

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  165. Neighbor kids had lice and she covered their heads with Crisco for a few hours. It smothered the bugs and NO CHEMICALS.

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  166. A surgical and suture kit, betadine & blood clotting granuals. You may be miles from the nearest clinic or doctor hell, if SHTF the places probably wont even be open! These items will at least give one a chance if critically wounded and when in dire straits, anyone can suture another.

    Lidocaine would be awsome to have in the medical kit-trying to figure out how to get a hold of some legally! May be making another trip to Mexico! next time you go, stock up on your precriptions and antibiotics.

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  167. Great idea. Had not thought about stocking up on wipes from a fast food place. I'll start picking one or two up whenever we go out….

    Baby wipes are definitely high on the list. Very good for cleaning…

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  168. t-rex traps are the best for that if your not going to eat it never clean it the nastyer the trap is the more rats will come and get cought in it if your going to eat it though sterilize it

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  169. There were towns in europe that used buckets of vinegar as coin deposits during the plague. They'd leave food or other tradables and have the "foreigner" leave payment in a pail of vinegar to disinfect it. Also – its easily made, as is Ammonia.

    highschool/college chemistry book?

    I also recomend bulk Lysol. the CDC and Army HAZMAT uses it in the showers to kill 99.9999% of everything off the hazmat lab suits. if it kills engineered ebola/anthrax near contact time its good.

    –disconnect

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  170. Also Hydrogen Peroxide is an active compound – not like a noble gas. once you open the container, you lose power to every oxygen molecule. good to store hybrogen cheap… but to what purpose i'd not venture a guess.

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  171. As a suggestion from a lady who had to do this in college when overseas….instead of a washboard for laundry, keep a new, clean toilet plunger on hand. Put your dirty laundry in a bathtub with your soap and water and use the plunger to agitate your laundry like the agitator inside an automatic washing machine works. It works especially well for heavy items like jeans and towels. You will still have to wring out each piece by hand but it makes the washing part of the laundry much easier and faster. Use the plunger also to move the rinse water through the clothing/linens/towels.

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  172. Heavy duty dishcloth wipes in a roll are great to use instead of a towel, you would not want lots of wet towels hanging around the house in an emergency. These dishclothes afre great to use when camping as well.

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  173. You don't need toothpaste, if you have something like salt. Actually, according to my dentist (and more recently some studies I've read), you really don't need a toothbrush so much as dental floss. Apparently, we keep our outer tooth surfaces pretty safely clean naturally in the course of eating and our tongue movements etc. It's between the teeth that we need to focus on. But heck, I have a toothbrush and toothpaste in my pack. ๐Ÿ™‚

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  174. Good point! I keep coconut oil/butter on hand. I've also been reconsidering the shortening thing. I remember my grandmother and mother keeping shortening it seemed like forever in the cupboards. It might not be super healthy, but on the other hand, it seems a lot of people used it to bake and cook with without much resultant harm in the past, so I guess in an emergency it would at least be useful!

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  175. Did I miss "plastic tarps" on any of these lists? I don't remember seeing that listed. For making water and numerous other uses. It sure is difficult to find good quality plastic tarps anymore though.

    Did I also miss Fresnel lenses? For starting fires. Mechanical types can make solar ovens out of these too, but you have to be very careful in use.

    Did I miss socks and underwear? From what I've been told by people who work in emergency rescue and homeless etc. charities, those are two of the things they typically need the most. Might be good for minor bartering? Unused, of course. ๐Ÿ™‚

    Did I miss sleeping masks on the lists? That, along with ear plugs, are things I have in my pack. I figure if I have to be evacuated to a shelter, I might be very glad I have them. I'm not sure, but I think people with children might find these helpful so the kids can sleep better in certain conditions too.

    I like the guy's suggestion of a Dutch oven. I'd suggest a nice, old-school, iron wok. This is pretty much the only piece of cookware you'd need in an emergency. Many Chinese people used nothing else for thousands of years, so if they could do it, so can we. ๐Ÿ™‚ It also works as a small water basin etc. obviously.

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  176. This is important to remember though; because who knows, you might end up somehow, someplace, just having to rely on yourself. It's important to tell yourself that you CAN get by with very little, and to consider how you would do that if you had to. Not pleasant to have to do that, maybe, but we are creative, inventive beings.

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  177. Those dry out pretty quickly though; I would check the stash at least annually if you are going to store anything in those little foil packets.

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  178. A smaller sized device of this type could certainly have its uses, in certain scenarios. I personally would go for something like a cellphone that has similar functionality, since it's so much easier to carry. Even if your particular phone didn't have a ton of storage on its card, you can always also carry a separate card or flash drive.

    Actually this reminds me that I intended to get some inexpensive flash drives to throw into my pack, to be able to keep copies of important information and paperwork, and have space to add things. In a "situation" we're probably going to want to document what is happening, and that might be of vital importance or at least of eventual historical importance. For example, what if you have children and one of them is missing? You can give a flash drive filled with photos and information about your child to whatever authorities might be out there looking for missing people etc. Or you might need to photograph abuses taking place for a record, or to document the acts of a criminal etc. like people did photographing looters in London etc.

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  179. I have to say I'm not convinced that in an emergency scenario one will be in a position to grow vegetables, which is a time-consuming process fraught with potential failure from multiple causes.

    Also, vegetables technically don't offer all that much calorie value; odds are you'd burn off lots more calories trying to grow them than you'd recover.

    Unless you have very timely consistent rainfall, you also face the issue of watering them.

    I agree 100% that in theory it's a great idea for the diet variety and nutritional benefits; but these can be obtained from stored dried vegetables and via other means, such as foraging natural plants or sprouting seeds.

    But it certainly wouldn't hurt to try, if you have the right situation. I think you'd need to be located really "out there" far away from everyone in order to keep your pumpkins to yourself. Or booby-trap them like the pot growers do.

    I've studied this issue in some depth based upon my background in history and anthropology/archaeology. There are certain plants which likely grow naturally in one's area that produce a lot of useful food. Or you can plan ahead and start growing useful plants now. Rather than vegetables, which you have to fiddle around with constantly and still may fail at, I think one is better off with things like fruit and nut trees and shrubs etc. that will naturalize in your environment.

    As just one example, even people who live in desert climates can grow lots of agaves, which used to be such a desirable food resource amongst the Native Americans in those regions that they made long annual treks to hold multi-day feasts on nothing but agaves. The giant asparagus-like flower shoot or the central "heart" of the plant can be consumed. You trim the plant basically like you'd trim an artichoke or pineapple. Inside is a wonderful, tropical fruit tasting "heart" which you can roast. It's extremely nutritious and delicious.

    There are many such plants one could establish nearby that would produce a LOT of food without any effort, if the need arose. If we are thinking in terms of preparing for emergencies, why shouldn't we make part of our planning our landscape and nearby natural areas?

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  180. yarn knitting kneedles crochet hooks and basic instruction to learn and make socks hats glives leg warmers sweaters baby wear blankets and even rugs. keep adding yarn you will never have enough.

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  181. Thanks for all the great tips! I would suggest buying the unsented variety of tampons for wounds. I sure wouldn't want someone stuffing a floral sented tampon in my head wound. I'm also am supprised by all the post on antibiotics. I personally would rather be in a situation with a person who has a stock of essential oils (and the proper knowledge of uses), then with someone who has a stock pile of antibiotics. Don't get me wrong, antibiotics have a place. This is just coming from someone that was given two major doses of hardcore antibiotics, during child birth 8 years ago… I'm finally starting to feel normal again. For all those natural minded people, I would suggest investing in some this liquid gold: http://www.secretofthieves.com/ The site also gives a bit of info about the thieves, who survived during the plague.

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  182. This is coming from a mothers perspective, having a book (for kids old enough to read) and some small toys/games/ crayons & coloring books/self winding radio to keep a child preoccupied, are invaluable. This summer we had a power outage that lasted only four days (very long days, even with those items, I might add lol)… But we still had an end in sight, and the ability to drive to a more intertaining location. So the thought of not having some sort of entertainment for small children in a situation that could possibly last longer, sounds like pure hell! If your an adult without kids, and could possibly be residing with others who have them, I think that the idea of packing earplugs is wise (even ones with kids for that matter. Bahaha!). Think a long the lines of a road trip, and hearing "are we there yet", over & over, only worse!

    Thank you, to the posters that reminded me of the value of a little peace & quite… I'll be packing a few extra earplugs!

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  183. I have a hand crank generator, puts out 10 watts of power, enough to charge a car battery. then I use the car battery and inverter to power other things. I also have large and small skin staplers a few suture kits. and some Israeli vacuum packed bandages. I have head and neck warmers like the buffs they wear on the 'Surviver' show. I would NEED a good supply of coffee and dry creamer, I guess that would be under comfort items. On my mini laptop I have over 1500 survival, weapon making, forge and blacksmithing skill, farming, wilderness living books. If you can think of it, it's in one of those books. I can look up anything I don't know how to do then go do it. If it is for someone else I'll barter my skills for whatever they may have that I don't. That's kind of how the whole idea of living in the "wild west" got started I think. if any one comes to take something from me then they'll find they're looking down the wrong end of a .45 auto and I won't be far from my Winchester 30-30 and I'll more than likely be covered from the house with a 357 Buntline that my wife likes. As far as fishing goes I found these 'Auto Reels' a while back. The idea is you secure the reel to a tree limb and toss the baited hook and float out in the water and walk off and do something else when you come back if s fish took your bait and ran with it it would trip the release and let the fish fight till it got tired then take up slack line as it got closer. when you came to check it there was your fish still in the water and alive and fresh. I used it a couple of times while camping. Works better that I thought it would. If you can find them it wouldn't hurt to throw a couple in the pack. and a can of "Marvel Mystery Oil" in there too, that stuffs great and while we're on the subject there's a dry lubricant they use on bicycles I don't remember the name of it, but if you describe it at the bike shop they'll know it, get that and some white lithium grease. Those three will keep anything moving. Pack a slingshot too, you can chase off unwanted wile-life like skunks with out getting too close. Use rocks or dirt clods for ammo but carry some steel balls or marbles too, I also carry some bbs or bird shot out of a shotgun shell. About 6 or eight of these can bring down a quail or grouse you flush out just walking through a field, but you have to be loaded and ready. Thats about all i can think of for now.

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  184. I don't mean to make any one feel uncomfortable by this but no one has mentioned a Bible or whichever is the Holy book of your chosen religion. A few Hymnals, some prayer books. (Athiests can bring extra changes of underwear). These would be for long term survival. Because somebody will need burying. There will be those that will want marrying and I don't know about you all but I don't know the right words, but I think I can find them, with a little help. Also they are good for lifting the sprits and encouraging folks to go on when things look bleakest.

    On another note: Pack some Imodium AD, Kaopectate or Bismuth, and Syrup of Ipecac for obvious reasons. One or more maladies WILL befall you or one of your group. Probably from eating foods you are not familiar with even if they are safe.

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  185. I tried a squirrel with peanut butter and one of those plastic rat traps you set with your foot… I found the chewed up, sprung trap underneath a tree the next morning.

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  186. I agree with the concept. As I work in the medical field, I tend to lean a bit heavy on the Rx side of "Bugging-Out", and some over the counter(OTC) medications will go a long ways toward making life a little easy on the Day-After. A few easy to get and great to have meds are: PeptoBismol(Indigestion/Diarrhea), Ibuprofin(Muscle/Bone Injury Swelling/Fever), Tylenol(Fever/Pain), Benadryl(Allergic Reactions), and Neosporin(Cuts/PostCooled BurnCare). A few Prescription Meds that would be awful nice to have on hand are Vicodin/Norco(Pain!) and Ciprofloxacin(Antibiotic). Also see: http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/472851_6

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  187. Man Thats ugly. I'm not going to post the rest. Please accept my apologies. If you know you cleans this up please ask for this to be removed. Thanks

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  188. Bleach is NOT diluted lye. Bleach is Sodium hypochlorite. Chlorine. Most household bleaches and pool chlorinators use lye as a stabilizer (at >1%) but that is a far cry from bleach being a diluted water and lye solution. It is the Sodium hypochlorite in bleach that makes it an effective disinfectant as it is a powerful oxidizer. This makes an enormous difference when using bleach to disinfect water.

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  189. Actually, it is 2 drops per quart of water, 8 drops per gallon. DOUBLE that if the water is cloudy. If you mess up and put in a few extra drops just leave the water open to the air for a few hours. The extra chlorine will "evaporate" out. Pouring from one container to another will speed this process up some too.

    The pool tablets also work but it is harder to get the "right" concentrations. One tablet will do many, many gallons of water.

    One gallon of Regular Clorox Bleach will treat 3,800 gallons of drinking water.

    Looks like the not-so-friendly corpsman that provided the service announcement was also not so well informed. Yes, do learn how to do this correctly, but it isn't brain surgery.

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  190. Wow. Boiling birch bark does NOT give you penicillin. It gives you methyl salicylate, commonly known as aspirin. Also, as Den points out, making a mushroom mold also does not equate to penicillin.

    Mercury stick? A fire steel maybe? No Mercury in them to note though.

    Anyway, you are one of the few here that seem to think they are Rambo. "I was stabbed twice in the gut, which were kill shots, and I stitched myself back up…" You can't treat internal wounds and bleeding with a pocket sewing kit bro. You are the weakest link. Good bye.

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  191. Here is a related tip. If you have an old battery powered drill you can turn it into a small generator for charging batteries and such. Attach a wire lead to each of the 2 contacts where the battery connects to the drill and put alligator clips or whatever connector you like on the other ends. Get a stiff piece of wire, pipe, etc, about 1/8 to 1/4 inch diameter and bend it to look like an old hand drill (bit and brace). This piece will be the hand crank and gets tightened into the chuck of the drill. Now, hold the drill steady in a vise or something similar and turn the crank. You will be creating an electrical charge at the 2 leads you attached earlier. The voltage depends on the normal operating voltage of the drill and how fast you crank. Create a simple electrical circuit by clipping a resistor between the leads, then put a volt meter across the resistor. Crank away and see how fast you need to crank to get what voltage output.

    You can also make more elaborate and efficient cranking systems but this should give you some ideas.

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  192. Before you go vacuume sealing all your stuff, make sure it fits in the bag unsealed first. Sure you can fit more when you remove all the air, but what happens once you open an item to use it. Suddenly it takes up more space. Use several items and you suddenly can't fit it all back into the pack.

    So, pack first, then unpack, vacuume seal and repack.

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  193. I saw something I think about a Whole grain grinder. I think it should be one that will go fine enough to make flour. Then DON'T use it on oily seeds or grains, trust me you'll waste hours cleaning it out before you can use it again. Also you need a meat grinder or three for deer (ok unnamed variety of meats) burgers and sausages. A hand or foot operated grinder for sharpening things would be nice, and help wear off some of that energy the kids always have.

    Dusty

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  194. Don't forget that regular table salt is usually iodized. We need iodine for proper thyroid function, and it isn't found in too many foods.

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  195. I have to disagree that you should never use it. I've had cuts or scratches that fester for days, stretching into well over a week with no sign of healing. When I finally break down and wash a wound with hydrogen peroxide and let it bubble for a while, within a day, it starts healing properly. I'll take my chances on the supposed healthy tissue damage because of what it does to the unhealthy tissue. It's well worth the trade-off.

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  196. I have a bottle of hydrogen peroxide that's probably 15 years old (based on the expiration date). When you use it for a cut or scratch that's a few days old, it still bubbles away, just like hydrogen peroxide from a new container, and the wound begins healing immediately.

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  197. this is a great list
    but i didnt notice anyone putting water on there. and is there any certain way to store water if you have a well?

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  198. Thanks for sharing such as great list of survival items. This is a great base list, but everyone will have to specialize their list for their needs depending on where they live and who they are caring for? Getting back to a basic lifestyle is a reminder that yes, you need the things on this list and more, but how many things do you depend on daily that aren't on this list?? Challenge yourself to go with a few of these items and see how much your life changes.

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  199. Great list! I am changing to all natural products and have found that Pure Bergamot and Tea Tree Essential oils work great as deodorant. Just put a few drops on armpits. They are safe and take much less space than deodorant tubes or cans. Other benefits include, Pure Tea Tree oil has fantastic antibacterial and healing properties for minor cuts and scrapes. It should be in every first aid kit. Bergamot EO is a also great air freshener and mood lifter for when the shtf! They will take little storage space.

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  200. Had to drive a long way to an ER. A simple supply of baby oil, in a an eyedropper bottle together with an aspirator (you know, the rubber hand-held device that you use by squeezing the bulb end and then slowly releasing your grip to draw in and then rapidly squeezing the bulb end again to spray out whatever you had pulled in Platte daken

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  202. no one that I have seen has mentioned water purifier bottles. <a href="http://www.nikken.com/healthsolutions” target=”_blank”>www.nikken.com/healthsolutions has these and a larger unit that is portable and you can use water from any source(lake, toilet,swimming pool, puddle etc.) bottle is $55 and tabletop unit $374. Filters 2/$29 for bottle and $30 for the other I believe. Also some other good stuff like Jade Greenzymes- shelf life 3 years-powdered barley grass, seaweed mix powder that has abundant nutrition (dense in vitamins, minerals, protein) lightweight and easy to pack and transport

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  203. There is one key medication missing: IMODIUM or equivalent, diarrhea can kill you through dehydration and loss of electrolytes, not talking about other inconveniences when you are on the run. In the UK you can get it without a prescription. Second on the list of medication: pain killers.

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  204. One thing that I have yet to see on any of these sorts of lists that I find on the internet, work gloves! As a woman having to deal alone with the long power outage after Hurricane Isaac I can tell you that I was glad to have them on hand when it came to dealing with generator troubles. Anything that risks chemical absorption through the skin or cuts that might get infected will make you happy to have added them to your home preps and your BOB. Pack some for the women too.

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  205. Not true, it is very healthy, and anti viral. It's the hydrogenated stuff that's bad, if you are in a survival situation you w I'll be lovin this fat.

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  206. I attended a conference once, the guest speaker was (at that time Major) Nick Rowe. If you don't know who he was, he was the only person to escape captivity from the NVA during the Viet Nam War. A fantastic person! He spent 6 years in bamboo cages too small to streatch out in, and too short to stand up in. Col Rowe said that no matter how you imagine rat tasting like chicken or anything else, mr rat still tastes like rat. He established the SERE school at Ft Bragg, it was similar to the one depicted in the tv show "The Unit". To close, Col Rowe was assassinated in the Philipines by comunist guerillas. He was the ultimate survivor, and he is still one of my hero's.

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    • All those ideas about rat traps are good ones. Especially when you are fighting Hanta Virus or the Black Plague. But I ain't gonna chow down on one – I hope.

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  207. acid reflux & heartburn can be allieved by drinking 2 tea spoons baking powder disolved in 8 oz water. Sinusitus & other sinus problems can be allieved by snorting 2 teaspoon baking powder & 2 teaspoons sea salt disolved in warm PURE water up your nostrils – yes, it works great, as does the heartburn remedie.

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  208. white rice will store about 5 times longer but is less nourishing than brown rice. White rice also contains arsenic in levels if they were in drinking water anywhere in the country would be considered unsafe. But white rice is not regulated.

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  209. Hemp seeds are essential to have! Before the Asian cotton invasion of the west, hemp was used from everything from books to rope to the first US flags!!!!!

    Grow some hemp and help to save the world!!

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  210. also the "external feminine pads" make a great bandage wrap for a GSW (gun shot wound)
    besides after what happenes, the most dangerous thing isnt "the mob" or "the gangs" or "the zombies" its the wifes moms and women at that time of the month on the rag. I will be the one quoting monte python "FLEEEEEEE RUN AWAY!!!!"

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  211. Years ago, I was on a survival trip in the Utah desert and a tiny spider crawled in my ear. For some reason it liked being there and set up camp. I have no wax in my ears, so for the next 3 days he would dig at my eardrum at night, keeping me awake. During the day I guess he slept, as there were few sounds. After the third day I started getting an earache, so an instructor poared some warm salt water down my ear. I guess the little spider didn't like that, so he came out. Now he lives in my diary as evidence of his and my experience. :o)

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  212. Fishing line. Not only for fishing but for traps. Also, silly string to locate similar traps. And the tampons can be used for wounds as well as feminine needs.

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  213. We keep sugar, flour, yeast, and salt for bread and such in our E-kit if we were to have to stay home. Also, firewood and a grate to go over the fire to heat our food in pots and pans. The house I'm living in doesn't have a fireplace, but I want to get a wood stove to be able to cook with and heat the home. We also keep feminine hygiene products, peroxide, betadine, bandaids, ace wraps, whiskey, tylenol, tweezers, antibiotics, alka-seltzer, other first aid items and a TON of water. We buy the gallon water jugs for $1 at Albertsons or Vons. You can also get a bunch of this stuff at the 99 cent store.

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  214. Vinegar is also great as an astringent (for cleaning your skin), as well as an antacid. Honey has healing properties and can be used just like polysporin to prevent infection (though it would attract ants :S ).

    Hair, especially your own, can be used to sew up a cut…

    What I'd like to know is… can you give us a condensed version of the list for those who may choose to migrate to higher ground and need to pack light? Depending on what's ahead…I truly hope nothing happens, but don't want to be kicking myself if it does. Better to be safe, than sorry…right. My neighbors would think I'm off my rocker if they knew I"m prepping

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  215. Good Point, but pantie liners would work in a pinch…they're sterile, no thicker than a large the lg square gauze pads in firstaid kits, and would allow you to apply pressure without direct contact with the wound. Tried it with a nasty razor accident. No bandaids long enough and it helped stop the bleeding.

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  216. if she's starving…all she'll care about is if you can provide for her (well…that and you're not an ass). After awhile…we're all gonna smell the same. I hope if it does "hit the fan" that people don't loose their humanity…and YES I'm a chick.

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  217. Has anyone tried the solar ovens? Just thinking…for traveling…which would be lighter? Haven't seen either…just heard about them. Which is more efficient as well?

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  218. Two points ….. 1) without a small tube of poly a cut could turn into a life threatening infection . It's small and easier to carry then a bottle of alcohol . 2) all the survival prep in the world is useless unless u have baby wipes!!! Spent many weeks with the military in the bush and believe me …. Baby wipes are a must !!

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  219. For all you guys who are packing midol for your woman or girls who say you need it: your mood is gonna be crappy. Shtf you are gonna be mad. Aspirin, antibiotics, epi-pen, Imodium. These ate life saving things. Midol to help u fit in your skinny jeans, not so much. Just saying. And yes I'm a girl. Suck it up ladies!

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  220. I do smoke and your right, the very thought of being with out a cigarette drives me nuts. I am planning on trying to stop. If I can't now, I wont have a choice then. Buying rollies( tobacco you roll) now will help a bit. May be dry but when your wanting a smoke anything will work.
    Also if you get a electric cigarette now it will help. I have one, but grand kids got to it, so need to buy a new one. Get a few pipes for your smokes and smoke. Papers will be perfect for rollies and your green smoke.

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  221. My pit bull just had 6 pups. I am keeping two of them, plus my little yapper who is the best watch dog. Would I eat one if needed, you betcha, I would be crying my ass off but I would do it.

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  222. My hubby is going to make me a roller by using the old wringers on the old washing machines. I have a perfect tub to heat water as needed, out side to light it up and the wringer to rinse it out!
    I actually prefer being as close to naked as I can get when out side, hell at my age that would be enough to scare any one off my land!!!

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  223. I have a fire place, 2 wood burning stoves out side for in a pinch and especially made grate for all of them to cook on. Keep your wood stock up if you can, we use the fireplace for heat but can cook on it as well.

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  224. Doesn't matter the why's or how's, it will happen, so all should be prepared to deliver babies. Be it human or animal. Animals leave them alone, they know what they are doing. Infants will be our new generation so there will be plenty around. We all need to realize that if it hits it will be worse on the young ones, so prepare for what ever happens, because by God it will.
    I've delivered many animals in my old age and can deliver a baby if needed. What a miracle birth truly is… Your heart becomes involved which is the way of things.

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  225. good one, I have several old oil lamps placed around my home, because when a dog pisses in the streets the lights go out. We have the worse electrical grid of any one!!
    Lighter fluid for zippos will also help.

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  226. Excellent ideas! My daughter bought me a round crochet thingy to make hats with, I love it and is so easy to use. I can make pot holders but never learned to knit.

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  227. We use it. it works I love it. WE PERSONALY Used it in Ears / Nose / BEST .> INSIDE MOUTH For coldsores BUT ONLY 10 mins ..it custic burns after that time) sore throut wash. GREAT For Lice treatment kills live ones can use dayily on family for week. safe your only getting vit C not poisons on you and the kids./ and have tryed as medison too
    The very best thing I have found is GRAPEFRUIT SEED EXTRACT

    Internal uses include but not limited to: Digestive Upsets, Gastrointestinal Disorders, Diarrhea and Food Poisoning. Infections from: Parasites (single and multi-celled), Bacterial, Viral and Fungal. Candida Yeast Infections, Thrush and Chronic Fatigue. Oral Infections: Tooth Plaque, Gum Disorders, Breath Freshener and Mouthwash. Colds and Flu, Sore Throats, Strep Throat, Ear Inflammation / Pain, Gassiness, Sinusitis and much more!
    WILL BE MORE INFO UNDER COMMENTS

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    • External uses include but not limited to: Acne, Athletes Foot, Nail Fungus Infections. Skin Infections: Fungal / Bacterial / Parasitic / Viral / Ringworm, Cuts / Wounds. Warts, Poison Ivy/Poison Oak, Rashes, Jock Itch, Shaving Itch, Dandruff, Cold Sores / Herpes, Head Lice, Chickenpox, Cracked Lips, Toothbrush Cleaning and much more!
      Physicians have observed that the herpes simplex virus becomes inactive just ten minutes after the application of grapefruit seed extract.
      One of the most important applications for grapefruit seed extract is in the support and protection of individuals with chronic immune system problems

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      • Benefits of Grapefruit Seed Extract
        1. Broad Spectrum
        Grapefruit seed extracts main advantage is it's extraordinary ability to perform both (internally and externally) against a wide variety of known or unknown infections caused by viruses, bacteria, funguses and parasites.
        2. Grapefruit seed extract is alkalizing.
        Grapefruit seed extract helps alkalize the body. It is considered one of the most alkaline forming foods and of all fruits it is the most alkalizing. Alkalizing the body (raising pH) is one of the single most important health regeneration benefits available.
        Disease cannot live in an alkaline environment within the body. It is claimed that cancer dies in a pH of 8.0. Countless other conditions are caused by an acid environment within the body. These same conditions are effectively treated by restoring the proper pH.
        Grapefruit seed extracts pH is a low 2.0. Don't let this fool you as acid foods have alkaline effects on the body.

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  228. . The problem comes when you eat food that is acid forming such as meat, sugar and most grains. This food creates and acid environment within the body.
    Most degenerative diseases are associated with your body pH. Your body pH is one of the most important aspects to consider when trying to overcome a serious illness and to maintain good health. The list of diseases caused from improper pH is a mile long. Cancer and most other diseases cannot exist in an alkaline environment. The pH of the non-deficient and healthy person is in the 7.5.
    3. Beneficial Bacteria
    Grapefruit seed extract stimulates the immune system. (According to Doctors and Veterinarians) grapefruit seed extract (at normal doses) is gentle yet preserves the integrity of your intestinal bacteria. Without these beneficial bacteria life could not be sustained.

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  229. 4. Drug Resistant Bacteria
    To date there is no evidence that any type of pathogenic microorganism has ever built up a resistance to grapefruit seed extracts active ingredient. Due to the mode of its activity it is believed that this resistance is impossible as grapefruit seed extract disrupts the organisms cytoplasmic membrane.

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  230. 5. It can be taken for long periods of time without toxic side effects.
    There are reports that people have taken grapefruit seed extract every day for several years (as a preventive) without side effects of any kind. However we do not recommend grapefruit seed extract for long term use!
    6. GSE is hypoallergenic (non-allergenic).
    Dr. Allen Sachs points out that about 3 to 5 per cent of all people are allergic to citrus fruit and could therefore also display a sensitive reaction to grapefruit seed extract. These people should start with a low dosage and perform a patch test to be sure.

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  231. 7. It can be used for humans and animals including pets (fish, reptiles, birds etc).
    All living creatures great and small have benefited from the use of grapefruit extract.
    8. Grapefruit seed extract is a multipurpose product used for countless applications.
    Pet Health – Internal and external conditions and infections, skin conditions, mange, fleas, etc.
    Household Uses – Vegetable wash, counter tops, cutting boards, laundry cleaner, etc.
    Travel Uses – Grapefruit extract is used against water and food borne illnesses, diarrhea, dysentery, etc.
    Gardening Uses – Tool cleaner to remove fungus, mold. As a bug spray, plant spray and more!
    9. Wound Healing
    Grapefruit seed extract is extremely good for fast healing of scar tissue associated with many types of wounds (even big ugly scars).
    10. It is Very Economical to Use!
    Grapefruit seed extract is very effective at low concentrations therefore a little goes a long way as most applications only require a few drops per dose. Our 1.5 oz bottle contains 900 drops of potent Triple Strength grapefruit seed extract. Triple Strength averages around 3-5 drops per dose.

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  232. Read the ingredients on Midol. It's just:

    * pain reliever (aspirin, acetominophen)

    * Caffeine (not making this up!)

    * Diuretic (to relieve water retention)

    A strong cup of coffee or some no-doze caffeine pills + pain-reliever (NSAID: aspirin, ibuprophen, acetominophen) can be stored separately and taken together. Caffeine is already a diuretic. If water-retention is an issue, then she needs to cut down on her carb intake. Carbs process into glycogen and get stored in the muscles along with water. Bloating and cramping can occur sort of like if you go out running and get a stitch in the side…the body's having issues with water retention. If she goes on more of a protein diet, her body will balance its water and electrolytes naturally.

    Anyways, midol is just various other drugs teamed together. You can buy each separately, and she could take them together as needed. For bad cramping, look into the local yuppie/hippie health food store for some herbs like "squawbush" or "crampbark". Native Americans used it to ease cramping during menstruation.

    I would also recommend stocking up on a few pint of pedialite, b/c getting a bad case of the runs will require some electrolyte replenishment. You never know if your food stockpile will have something that has gone bad…and dehyration can be overcome with water, but usually lack of electrolyte replenishment is what kills you.

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  233. A lot cool ideas for BIBO but consider this — many of you may be working away from home — so having an arsenal and three month supply of gourmet food in your fallout shelter or stashing your BIBO kit by the front door isn't going to help when you're at work or on the road. Keeping a kit at work and/or in your car, even a Swiss army knife in your purse or pocket, is essential for being prepared.

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  234. Foam board like we all used in h.s. for presentations that is cut with precision works outstandingly well to insulate windows. I spent six years living in the rockies in an apartment that all windows were north facing…we had to crank the heat up to 80 just to keep the corner room (the only room with 2 exterior walls) above freezing while the back part of the apartment we slept with our bedroom windows open!

    I bought foam board cut it to fit tightly with an exacto knife and only had to tape where the foam boards had to be stacked end to end to cover the height of the windows. PROBLEM SOLVED. We were then able to keep our heat set to 65 and the rooms maintained a much more equal temp.

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  235. to initially clean a wound this is fine, however, ask any medical professional hydrogen peroxide slows growth of new tissue prolonging healing process. I learned this after my 70yo mother's insurance refused to pay for a hospital stay after a tumor was removed from her abdomen and she was sent home and we learned to pack a wound together!!!!! S*&* that took forever to heal even though we learned right off about not using hydrogen peroxide.

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  236. "…half of walmart to survive…" LOL isn't that the truth!!!!! Back in Colorado when they had their "100 year blizzard" and Denver was hammered with 5' of snow I made my trip to walmart for supplies and I thought it very odd that along with all the usual winter supplies being sold out I passed an entirely empty display where only that morning $15 t-shirts had been! What were those people thinking "Milk, Meat, Salt…..Oh yeah, we don't want to run out of t-shirts before this blizzard is over!!!" REALLY???? Just be smart and don't get carried away people!

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  237. I have a family of six, four of which are kids and we plan to bug in. check out Tower Garden from Juice Plus this awesome thing has already saved my family a load of cash of veggies and it is very healthy. We also have a seed vault with over 5,000 seeds.

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  238. Tip: bottom of a coke or beer can can be polished up good with toothpaste and used to start a fire in place of a store bought solar lighter using much the same concept as a magnifying glass.

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  239. don't buy MRE's just stock up on canned meats with long shelf life Pink Salmon from chicken of the sea has a shelf life of several years

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  240. Baby wipes are awesome! As a mom of 4 and a licensed home daycare owner I can say these things will clean almost anything! No carpet stain is a match for a quality baby wipe!!!

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  241. No one ever lists money. I suggest regular In God We Trust U. S. Currency. Let your needs determine the amount. Gold and silver coins that are easly identified by date and denomination by the same manufacturer as above. Our money has always been valued by every country. Remember it is easy to store, hide, and needs only to be kept from the elements. I think being liquid in cash is as important as storing the other survival items. It is a key item for bartering.

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  242. ONE THING THAT MY FAMILY AND II HAVE A LARGE SUPPLY OF IS AMMO FOR THE RIFLES AND 2 HANDGUNS. WE HUNT AND FISH- WWE HAVEN'T BOUGHT BEEF OR CHICKEN IN OVER 3 YEARS. PORK IS THE ONE THIING THAT I WOULD ADD AS HARDWOOD SMOKED BACON OR LARGE AMOUNT OF SALT PORK. IT WILL KEEP FOR A VERY LONG TIME WIITHOUT NEEDING TO BE KEPT REALLY COLD.

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  243. I would also add a good heavy hunting knife and magnesium fire starters wool blankets and as large a first aid kit as you can afford, artificial sinew, belts and bandages for tourniquets and large rolls of plastic

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  244. Condoms… Not just for protection, but very useful for collecting water as they expand many times their size.. Tampons.. If you're going off-roading in a vehicle, one of these in the fuel filler pipe will stop water getting into the tank, then into the engine, killing it.. And the condoms will stretch over the battery terminals, carburettor and fuses, providing temporary waterproofing..

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  245. Coconut oil is your best oil for all things. It has the best ratio of healthy fats, the most calories and has a much longer shelf life. It's also solid at room temp, so transporting it is much easier, less likely to spill, etc. You can use it to lubricate tools, machines, doors, moisturize dry and chapped skin.

    Note: developing the 1st weapon is your best defense.

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  246. Oh, it also has the highest smoke point, if you're cooking with fires, it's pretty hard to control the temp.

    Note: developing the 1st weapon is your best defense.

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  247. 1) Water Purification tablets
    2) Thick socks
    3) waterproof boots
    4) Thermals
    5) thick rain cape
    6) Knife/rope/waxed matches
    7) Jerkey and dehydrated veggies

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  248. I think everyone has been reading and watching too much science fiction. When is this all suppose to happen anyway? I have a pretty good feeling that civilization has made it this far we will keep going. Maybe we will be farming more for our own community's need, but I'm very sure my 3 yo will be graduating from High School without the "TSHTF" spoiling our plans. But if it all makes you feel better, go for it. I for one don't have thousands of dollars or the space in my basement to make this list a reality. Good luck to you.

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  249. cut them in half then cut one half into smaller peices and place them in bigger half then fold and wrap in tinfoil leave a tiny part exposed to catch alight and hey presto homemade smoke bomb.

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  250. cable ties/zip ties of all sizes, dryer lint and vaseline can start a fire in a jiffy with a couple practice runs, knife sharpening stones or rods, small water purification pump (backpacker style) for rainwater etc, vitamins (when food runs low), neosporin ointment, magnesium rod for firestarting. leather gloves and non latex gloves also very handy. tweezers and magnifying glass of some sort (also can start a fire with that).

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  251. also dryer lint mixed with a little vaseline, store in film cannisters or old pill bottles, with a little practice (mag fire starter) you can have a fire in a minute…

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  252. I understand that we are all used to having what we need a short drive away but in reaility when SHTF we will most likely be running from our homes with what we can carry. OR tring to get away from neighbors who would kill if they knew what you have in your home and it wont take long for starving people to smell you food.

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  253. Thats why I learned to make soap from animal fat and wood ash just like the amish do.There is tallow in almost all soap with comes from animal fat, lye from wood ash, my hubby will be aloud to sleep in the same shelter as me lol

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  254. A self bailing plastic sit on top kayak is cheap and can take you over water without power, also good for fishing, if you are near water. Mine is camoflauged.

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